Journey with RRB costing more

[pdq]

Getting some confusing results for fares between Penally and Huddersfield for my mother. When travelling via Shrewsbury, I would expect the fare to be £122.20, as set by TfW.

I want flexible tickets, just in case, and looking for non-split. I'm using the forum ticket engine (set to flexible and no split) but I'm also getting similar results elsewhere, inc TfW.

Looking at travelling out at 07:24 on Weds June 26 and returning on Tues July 2 to arrive at 17:49, the default return fare is the Anytime Return at £436.10!! This journey is involving a RRB between Stockport and Huddersfield, even though some trains do seem to be running OK. Not really wanting RRBs, I tried clicking the 'no bus' option. This then returned the correct fare and the trains I had already researched. Arrival time in HUD will be 30 mins later, and departing only 10 mins earlier on the return journey.

Why is the Off peak return apparently not valid on the RRB between Stockport and Huddersfield?

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EDIT: spotted that the restriction on the ticket is Valid only for travel via (changing trains or passing through) Manchester. So, because the RRB misses out Manchester, the booking engines can't offer the OPR Off Peak Return (SVR). And the TfW booking engine can't be forced to offer the slightly slower train-only service.

 

[island]

Yes, you've answered your own question, the SVR* routed via Manchester is not available because the journey doesn't run that way.

*SVR is the abbreviation for off peak return. OPR stands for super off-peak return.

 

[pdq]

Sorry on abbreviations - assumed SVR was a 'saver return'
Anyway - does this mean that a traveller using an off peak return routed 'via Manchester' will actually be barred from using the replacement bus service? It's using a route that wouldn't usually exist as a direct journey and has only bene created because (I assume) it's a simpler road journey to Stockport than Manchester city centre with multiple rail connections.

 

[Deerfold]

Sorry on abbreviations - assumed SVR was a 'saver return'
Anyway - does this mean that a traveller using an off peak return routed 'via Manchester' will actually be barred from using the replacement bus service? It's using a route that wouldn't usually exist as a direct journey and has only bene created because (I assume) it's a simpler road journey to Stockport than Manchester city centre with multiple rail connections.

The RRB runs on days when TPE don't serve Manchester Airport, serving Stockport on the way between the two, presumably because it means people on the line from Sheffield don't have to go into Manchester then out again.

 

[jfollows]

Sorry on abbreviations - assumed SVR was a 'saver return'

That’s what it used to be called, until it was renamed as part of some kind of “simplification”.

 

[30907]

This is a case where an Easement to the Routing should be added to cover the situation.
Of course, with a flexible ticket you don't have to use the trains you selected - and I can't imagine anyone objecting to your using the RRB.