Lisbon (Travel Card)

[reb0118]

I'll be in Lisbon for approximately 48 hrs. from this Sunday. I was thinking of getting 2x daily travel cards at 6€ ea. I will be making use of the metro and trams and may take a trip on the Tagus ferries too. I will have my FIP free international pass for Portugal [CP] which I assume will be valid for suburban travel in the Lisbon area.

Does anyone have experience of using Lisbon's urban & suburban transport systems? Looks like they have a comprehensive network.

I will be making my way back to Edinburgh & Linlithgow by rail via Porto, Vigo, Barcelona, Nîmes, Paris, & London after that.

Cheers.

 

[Greenback]

I only used the old trams, I wasn't there for long, but it did seem that Lisbon had a very comprehensive and integrated transport system. Much like every other European city I've been to, in fact!

It's depressing that we can't have the same here, really.

 

[Gordon]

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Public transport still operated by Carris as it was when I last went in the mid 1980s. Although I haven't been back for too long my brother filled me in on what has and hasn't changed when he went last year.

Don't miss the Graca tram routes (12 and 28) with their ridiculous inclines (includes the steepest adhesion tram line section in Europe).

Although much reduced since the 'glory days' of 1971 when I first visited as a youngster and trams went all over the city there are still too long routes (15 and 18) and four wheel trams are still used (albeit modernised). Two of the main elements of the 4 wheeler modernisation were the doors and the pantographs, but I am told that trams still need to use their trolley poles on route 12.

 

[rf_ioliver]

Lisbon is really quite easy for travelling around. There are a few things you can't miss though:

The entrance arches to Rossio station shaped as horse shoes (specifically for Luisitanos)

The red line metro stations which are all art galleries (Linha Vermelha)

A trip across the 25 de Abril bridge on the Fertagus trains. The Vasco de Gamma bridge you have to do by car sorry, but at 18km it's impressive!

Lisbon Oriente station with its arched roof and also convenient for the Expo park and its aquarium, cableway and viewing tower (covenient for the Vasco de Gamma bridge).

The trams --- enough said!

Trips out to Sintra and Cascais, though not done these myself yet.


Been there a few times and always a really great city. Enjoy and, yes, I'm jealous!

 

[D7666]

Lisbon had a very comprehensive and integrated transport system. Much like every other European city I've been to, in fact!

It's depressing that we can't have the same here, really.

What is not integrated about London, Birmingham + West Mids , Liverpool + Merseyside, Manchester + greater, Sheffield + S Yorks, Leeds + W Yorks, Newcastle + tyne & wear, Glasgow + strathclyde, Nottingham etc within those areas ?

If you go smaller cities than that then they have no metro/tram or anything in the way of suburban main line trains to integrate with.


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Nick

 

[dutchflyer]

Actually their fare system was only integrated for monthly seasons. For singles and day tickets, it was separate-at least the CP-trains were excluded and there used to be a separate card for the metro-and for Carris-bus/tram/lift. DO check if it is for just the day or 24 hrs!
Do not miss these elevadores=lifts, 3 or 4, looking like an old tram on a sloped weelset-on some of the side-alleys of Rossio square.

 

[Robertj21a]

Just make sure that you do tram route 28 !

Robert

 

[30907]

What is not integrated about London, Birmingham + West Mids , Liverpool + Merseyside, Manchester + greater, Sheffield + S Yorks, Leeds + W Yorks, Newcastle + tyne & wear, Glasgow + strathclyde, Nottingham etc within those areas ?

By mainland European standards, the ticketing system is not integrated, in that (unless I've missed something) only day-rover type tickets allow multi-modal journeys.
In London, Oyster almost ticks the box but a single tube-NR-bus journey still generally incurs 3 fares, and changing buses means paying twice.

 

[Gordon]

In London, Oyster almost ticks the box but a single tube-NR-bus journey still generally incurs 3 fares, and changing buses means paying twice.

As a user of many European integrated networks over the decades, this is my main current complaint about the London structure. I suffer this frequently. I have a bus that passes my front door, but elsewhere on its route it takes a much longer way round. To do the shorter itinerary means using buses on two different routes, thereby paying twice.


and in general, deregulation of buses spoilt the nascent attempts in Britain to get to true integration - eg the destruction of the Tyne & Wear Metro plus bus feeders that was being created at the time.



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[anme]

As a user of many European integrated networks over the decades, this is my main current complaint about the London structure. I suffer this frequently. I have a bus that passes my front door, but elsewhere on its route it takes a much longer way round. To do the shorter itinerary means using buses on two different routes, thereby paying twice.


and in general, deregulation of buses spoilt the nascent attempts in Britain to get to true integration - eg the destruction of the Tyne & Wear Metro plus bus feeders that was being created at the time.

Agree with these points. In addition, many European cities make the station a propoer hub for different types of transport - not just trains, but also a central bus station, etc. This means it's easy to make end to end journeys by public transport.