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London Terminals to Reading

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johntea

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Just out of curiosity more than anything else really...

Today at Liverpool Street station I purchased a London Terminals to Reading off peak day return. It does not seem to allow the one journey by Underground which would surely be required to get to Paddington?

Unless I missed something obvious...
 
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A ticket from London Terminals does not (generally speaking) include travel on the Underground, you need a ticket from Zone U1 for that. Ticket machines are not programmed with the thought that you will go to the NR station to buy a ticket to start a journey at the Underground station and so they issue the ticket from London Terminals.
 

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As hairyhandedfool said I'm afraid. Ticket machines will vend tickets from London Terminals, even if you're at the wrong London Terminal, which is somewhat counter-intuitive in my opinion. It is a deficiency in the way the machines work, in that they don't check permitted routes and the London Terminals are often grouped together for ticketing purposes.

If you need a ticket that includes Underground too, then you need to go to the ticket office and ask for a ticket from Zone U1, which includes a single underground journey (one per direction for a return) starting at any Underground station in that zone. However if you have an Oyster card, then using this to cross London will usually be cheaper than a through fare from Zone U1.

It can also work out cheaper to buy a ticket with an origin near to the terminal that you want to start at, and then start short. For example, Hackney Downs to Reading includes an underground journey as it has a Maltese cross next to the route ("✠ANY PERMITTED"), and is cheaper than a Zone U1 to Reading ticket.

If you do this, be careful to check that the ticket has no restriction on break of journey which would prohibit starting short, and beware that these tickets often have different restriction codes and thus different peak times to tickets from London Terminals
 
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It can also work out cheaper to buy a ticket with an origin near to the terminal that you want to start at, and then start short. For example, Hackney Downs to Reading includes an underground journey as it has a Maltese cross next to the route ("✠ANY PERMITTED"), and is cheaper than a Zone U1 to Reading ticket.

If you this, be careful to check that the ticket has no restriction on break of journey which would prohibit starting short, and beware that these tickets often have different restriction codes and thus different peak times to tickets from London Terminals

Assuming you can get your paws on the ticket in the first place, prohibiting starting short (specifically, starting from the "inbound" Terminal) is surely unenforceable anyway. Restriction codes are a different matter, admittedly.
 

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Thanks for the explanations, interesting to read. Wasn't a problem to me as I'm Oystering around this week anyway. Do you reckon the staff would just let you through if you showed them the ticket?

On another note, at least Maidenhead ticket barriers recognised my break of journey was valid and let me through!
 

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Thanks for the explanations, interesting to read. Wasn't a problem to me as I'm Oystering around this week anyway. Do you reckon the staff would just let you through if you showed them the ticket?

Experience often seems to be that, without a Maltese Cross, no chance (even for valid tickets - of which there are some without Maltese Crosses).
 

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Thanks for the explanations, interesting to read. Wasn't a problem to me as I'm Oystering around this week anyway. Do you reckon the staff would just let you through if you showed them the ticket

No, I doubt it. They only let through U* London, maltese cross and travelcards.
 
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Travelling into Kings Cross I buy tickets from Finsbury Park to my destination and start short.

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