• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Managing a mix of stopping and through services in the Netherlands

Northumbriana

Member
Joined
9 Dec 2022
Messages
103
Location
Northumberland
A few years ago I looked at what I assumed was an accurate map of service levels on thr railway line which runs along the West of Amsterdam linking Zuid and Schiphol to Sloterdijk. It has several stations along it and 6tph calling at them and 6tph passing through. How can they manage this? 80kph limit and red signals to prevent catching up?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

mangyiscute

Established Member
Joined
6 Mar 2021
Messages
1,478
Location
Reading
Looks to me like there are 4 tracks there, 2 for the stoppers which are part of the metro and 2 for the fast national rail trains, which sometimes call at Lelylaan but there are no platforms on the fast lines at the other stations.
 

dutchflyer

Established Member
Joined
17 Oct 2013
Messages
1,391
On the line you mention its no more-only SPRinter=all stops trains shuttling AMs Central to Schiphol Airport, 6 or 8 per hour. Major reason is in fact the rebuilding of AMS Central to get wider platforms-so all tracks have to be realigned- to be able to get space for the masses.
On where I live and now send from: between den Haag and Rotterdam, still sometimes called ´the old line´, NS has partly and is busy putting on ETMET= Every Ten MInutes Een (=a) Trein/train, which applies to both the all stops, which I have to take to get home and the IC=faster trains. Its 4 tracks going south from den Haag HS till just beyond Rijswijk (tunnel station), then still 2 but planned to be also 4 tracks till just before tunnel of new station Delft (technical university, once so famous for waterworks engineering) then again 2 between the meadows with the odd windmill till Schiedam, where it meets the now metro line from Hook of Holland (where the ferry from UK arrives) and onward. This line is -I use it 3/4 times/week, quite punctual and reliable and so they do manage to get even more trains/hr on that section south of Delft. But why even ask? ANY metroline can also do that and most regulars very well know that NS is more like a big-size metro (underground for UK, though it only has a few tunnels here and there) running trains. And I always kind of thought that your old SR=Southern Region also has some pretty frequent lines with a similar service on it?
In fact lines with heavy freight are those most prone to heavy delays, as I also again experienced yesterday.
But again reading more thorough your post: On THAT section it is rail from Airport=Schiphol beside metro/GVB from Zuid=South. These lines are not linked.
At that time the train=NS line did have at least 4 SPRinter=all stops and 4 IC-s-a few more at some specific times.
 

Bemined

Member
Joined
28 May 2022
Messages
123
Location
Rotterdam, Netherlands
The timetable around Amsterdam was redesigned last year, but the concept having a stopping train between two intercity trains that are only 10 minutes apart is still used elsewhere. A sprinter train loses less than 2 minutes time per stop (deceleration, dwell time and acceleration), so if it departs 3 minutes after the intercity and has 2 additional stops it will still be 3 minutes ahead of the next intercity.
 

U-Bahnfreund

Member
Joined
6 Feb 2015
Messages
424
Location
Germany
The service pattern of NS can be seen here: https://nieuws.ns.nl/download/c10b58e3-54fc-4577-bf95-931b03a1e12c/spoorkaart2025.pdf

Indeed, the western leg from Schiphol to Sloterdijk has 12 tph, 8tph of them Hoofddorp-Amsterdam C, 2 tph Hoofddorp-Hoorn Keersenbogerd and 2 tph high-speed, but those are presumably prescribed here in the thread as the fast ones, as the metro is separate and has more stops.

The southern leg has 16 tph on four tracks + two more tracks for the metro.
 

Bemined

Member
Joined
28 May 2022
Messages
123
Location
Rotterdam, Netherlands
It's better to check the service pattern from last year as the original post mentioned it was a few years ago: https://nieuws.ns.nl/download/99a90bb4-da90-4e0b-8597-b5343701f39b/spoorkaart2024.pdf

In the old timetable there were 5~7 fast trains (not every international service ran hourly) and 6 stopping trains using the track from Schiphol to Sloterdijk (even though the fast lines bypass Sloterdijk in the schematic, they did in fact pass through). Several of those fast trains however had a timetable with reduced speed, while the 900/1000 series had 13 minutes running time from Amsterdam to Schiphol, the 9300 series had 15 minutes for the same route.
 

Top