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Hi all,

After much pondering over a cheap weekend away, I've managed to secure flights to Podgorica next month.

However, my knowledge on this part of the world is rather patchy so I'm hoping for some advice!

Firstly - I see there's an Airport station but the frequency of the trains looks to be rather patchy and I'll in fact just miss a train in both directions - so will want a taxi to the centre to avoid a 2+hr wait. Is there a reputable place to pre-book?

I'll probably just spend the rest of the Saturday wandering around the capital - does anyone have any recommendations on that front?

On Sunday, I'll go down to Bar on the train as the flight back is at 9pm. It doesn't look like there's any apps or eTickets to speak of, so I assume I just pay at the desk at Podgorica. Are cards accepted/is English spoken at all?

Thanks in advance for any advice on this!
 
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Hi,

Podgorica centre itself isn't that exciting.

There are stunning coastal views along the Montenegrin coast. I would heavily recommend looking for a cheap coach to Budva or Kotor and back. Kotor has a lovely old town and is well worth a visit.

English is spoken to a reasonable level (~B1) though people are generally not fluent. You shouldn't encounter any difficulties buying a ticket. This can be done both at the rail station and the bus station. Only cash is accepted at the bus station. I'm unsure about the rail station.
 

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It is a fair few years since I went to Montenegro and it may well have changed,but from what I remember there wasn’t much to Podgorica.There was a small museum and an orthodox cathedral but not much else.Bar was much more tourist oriented.We didn’t use the train,so can’t help with ticket info sadly,and we generally paid with cash, but as I recall English was generally spoken/understood.Enjoy your trip.
 

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As p.blue-go outside that pretty boring town newly promoted to being capital of a small country.
Train/bus tix: they use €, cash, and just as pre 2000: at counter, right before trip.
Name of country: black mountains, Monte Negro, Cerna Gora.
Do not use taxi´s much myself, but IF there is an app in use it will be grab or bolt. Just try. Google for airport site-it may have more info. These basic questions are most often also in the FAQ on forum of tripadvisor.
 

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Wiki mentions an L-20 bus airport-city connection.
The air approach to the airport (code still TGD for Titograd) is, shall we say, interesting with the adjacent Lake Skadar and mountains.
Travel and scenery is spectacular in all directions - but not in Podgorica itself.
Apart from the coast, and mountains in between, there's the route inland along the Morača canyon - not for faint-hearted drivers.
There could still be plenty of snow on the peaks in April.
It's also earthquake country - crockery might rattle (I once stayed in Budva on the coast, and the hotel vanished in the 1979 earthquake).
 

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Thanks all - I think we've established Podgorica itself isn't the most thrilling of destinations!

My issue is that I land at 1pm - so it'll basically just be a few hours in the afternoon/evening on day one. I suppose I could have a brief wander then just get a train down to the likes of Bar or Sutomore afterwards - it's not like advance booking is essential.

General consensus seems to be no public transport at the airport other than the train - I don't think the L-20 has run for quite some time.

Budva/Kotor I'd love to do but probably as part of a longer trip.
 

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The only public transport to and from the airport is the train. There is no buses at all. So a train or a taxi is your only method. I found the train method works fine but it of course depends on the times of your flights. There are around ten trains a day in each direction so it works out as roughly one train every one to two hours. I have attached a PDF train timetable but it sounds like you have already looked so maybe a taxi works better for your times.

There are always taxis waiting in the taxi ranks at the airport. So you can just use one of them. I do not think there is any need to pre book. The taxi drivers usually take cash only so make sure to have some cash.

The price is generally between EUR15.00 to EUR20.00 for the taxi journey from the Airport to Podgorica where as the train is EUR1.20 for this journey. So if you want to save a lot of money and pay just EUR1.20 then it might be worth waiting around at the airport for your train. I personally would as you save so much money. There is a cafe and a shop and some seating in the airport that you can use if you have a while for your train.

Podgorica has local city buses but they do not serve the Airport unfortunately but the website is here:


Most younger people speak English so if you need to talk to someone look for someone younger. Most older people do not speak English at all. Generally the younger the person the more likely they are to speak English and the older the person the less likely they are to speak English is what i have found. German is spoken among many older people as it was taught in schools. Russian is also spoken among many older people as it was also taught in schools and also among some younger people too as there are quite a few Russians living there. It has always been a popular tourist destination for Russians to visit. But as for English enough people speak decent English for you to easily manage. It is not that difficult to get by with English in the country.

The main language spoken is Montenegrin (in fact Bosnian and Croatian and Montenegrin and Serbian are all the same identical exact language but for political reasons they are considered four separate languages) and is mainly written in the Latin script these days but the Cyrillic script is still used in some places and among older people.

The international trains to and from Serbia (which also pass through Bosnia & Herzegovina too) are locomotive hauled and these can be used for domestic journeys as well. The local domestic services are a mixture of the modern CAF Civity units and very old RVR ER31 type Soviet built Elektrichka units.

The railways consist of the mainline from Podgorica to Bijelo Polje at the Serbian border and the mainline from Podgorica to Bar and the branch line from Podgorica to Niksic too. There is also a fourth line from Podgorica to Tuzi at the Albanian border but this one does not have any passenger trains running on it.

You can purchase ticket offices at the railway stations or onboard the trains. Most smaller stations (including the airport station) are unstaffed and there are no TVMs anywhere so from most stations you have to purchase onboard. First Class tickets are available but not really necessary. Tickets prices are extremely cheap by British standards.

Some examples of the train fares:

Airport to Podgorica: EUR1.20 (STD) / EUR2.00 (1ST)
Airport to Bar: EUR2.00 (STD) / EUR2.80 (1ST)
Bar to Airport: EUR2.00 (STD) / EUR2.80 (1ST)
Bar to Podgorica: EUR2.40 (STD) / EUR3.60 (1ST)
Podgorica to Airport: EUR1.20 (STD) / EUR2.00 (1ST)
Podgorica to Bar: EUR2.40 (STD) / EUR3.60 (1ST)

Purchasing tickets is cash only. It is a very much cash based country still. So it is a good idea to have cash with you. They use the Euro there.

If you board at any of the five stations that have ticket offices - Bar / Bijelo Polje / Niksic / Podgorica / Sutomore - and the ticket office is open then there is a small EUR1.00 surcharge to purchase a ticket onboard the train. But when boarding at any other station (such as the Airport or the hundreds of other stations in the country) there is no surcharge at all to buy onboard.

There are no online tickets or e tickets or m tickets. You just simply purchase at the station before your train or onboard the train.

This is the railway company website:


They have a basic app here as well:


The website also has a list of departures and a basic journey planner.

I have attached the current up to date timetable and fares PDF document for the railways. This has all the timetables and fares. You might want to download and print a copy. This will enable you to see the timetables when you have no internet access.
 

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Thank you @Horsham for a wonderfully detailed post. Saved me a bit of research! Travelled Bar to Belgrade a few years ago, but it’s one of those journeys it’s good to repeat.
 

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Agreed @Horsham that's very detailed indeed, thank you.

I did suspect I'd need to take cash (for the first time in a long time - I've managed with card abroad since Covid).

As for Internet access, I'll probably get a local sim at the airport as they look to be very cheap indeed (5€ or so for a lot of data that'll be good for a week or so). EE wants £7 out of me for 150MB with it being non-EU, non-EEA etc etc. Seems to be the same for all of the Balkans.

Thankfully the train times line up for me going back to the Airport (in fact Bar has two departures in a 45 min period) so it'd just be a taxi in one direction.

I'd probably have time on the Saturday (if nothing else) to go up to Niksić on the train and back - if its particularly interesting or anything at the other end? If not I suppose I could make my decision on the day based on if its an old Riga-built unit or not - I've sampled them in Latvia and they're good fun.
 

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Niksic is decently scenic, mini version of the Belgrade line really, but don't recall much at the other end except going for a beer. Should be solid CAF carts, think they are down to a single (refurbished) RVR that actually works now.
 

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Niksic is decently scenic, mini version of the Belgrade line really, but don't recall much at the other end except going for a beer. Should be solid CAF carts, think they are down to a single (refurbished) RVR that actually works now.
Looks like there's an old fortress and at least one highly-rated cafe/bar where people say "English isn't a problem" so that might be worth an evening wander (looks like there's a 20:00 train to bring me back).
 

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Nikšićko Gold or Nik Gold was the beer of choice on the train when I was last there. There was also a postal workers bar/hovel round the back of the railway station that became our defacto "local".

I found Podgorica to be a bit like having a night out in Grangemouth but the people were brand new. Cheap as chips - or was. No safety or security worries.

Took a day trip to Bar and visited Stari Bar or Old Bar then took the train to Belgrade.

Good memories.
 

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Just an update as I've landed in Podgorica today.

Immigration was staffed by the most bored looking people I've ever seen. Very much a case of take the passport, stamp a random page without looking and push it back. Done in seconds.

SIM card was easy enough to obtain - 10€ for a week and you just need to stick it in your phone and dial #100*.

In terms of taxis, "Royal Taxi" seems to be the official taxi service. I did the (usually unwise) thing of just walking up to a bloke and asking for a ride, but all the drivers seem to wear the same "Royal Taxi" lanyards so you know who's legit and who isn't. Its 12€ flat rate into town. Was a bit of a lively ride (saw the speedo hit 155km/h) but that's just how things are in this part of the world.

Podgorica is pleasant and certainly worth a wander when it's as warm and sunny as it is today. A few nice parks and bridges and the atmosphere is very relaxed indeed. Though as others have said, it's not a tourist hotspot. It just so happens that I arrived earlier than expected so I had the time to look around. You aren't missing much if you don't.

I'm about to set off from my hotel for the 1535 to Niksić, so we'll see what that's all about very soon...
 

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Just an update as I've landed in Podgorica today.

Immigration was staffed by the most bored looking people I've ever seen. Very much a case of take the passport, stamp a random page without looking and push it back. Done in seconds.

SIM card was easy enough to obtain - 10€ for a week and you just need to stick it in your phone and dial #100*.

In terms of taxis, "Royal Taxi" seems to be the official taxi service. I did the (usually unwise) thing of just walking up to a bloke and asking for a ride, but all the drivers seem to wear the same "Royal Taxi" lanyards so you know who's legit and who isn't. Its 12€ flat rate into town. Was a bit of a lively ride (saw the speedo hit 155km/h) but that's just how things are in this part of the world.

Podgorica is pleasant and certainly worth a wander when it's as warm and sunny as it is today. A few nice parks and bridges and the atmosphere is very relaxed indeed. Though as others have said, it's not a tourist hotspot. It just so happens that I arrived earlier than expected so I had the time to look around. You aren't missing much if you don't.

I'm about to set off from my hotel for the 1535 to Niksić, so we'll see what that's all about very soon...
I think the Niksić line is usually a unit. But I've heard the scenery is nice. Have fun!
 

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It is indeed a unit. The old lady in the ticket office was merrily chainsmoking away as she issued me a (rather large) ticket for 1,50€.

Thankfully some basic Montenegrin is similar to Polish - so no issues with the language.
 

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It is indeed a unit. The old lady in the ticket office was merrily chainsmoking away as she issued me a (rather large) ticket for 1,50€.

Thankfully some basic Montenegrin is similar to Polish - so no issues with the language.
That's the advantage of knowing basics in a slavic language! :)

What unit is it, Soviet one or modern one?
 

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I've read something about plans to extend the Nikšić line into BiH, as it used to be in Yugoslav days (part of the narrow gauge system from Čapljina which closed in the 60s).
Podgorica/Titograd-Nikšić was retained and rebuilt as standard gauge in the 1960s, and if built the extension westwards would be standard gauge on a new alignment.
But nothing will happen without piles of EU money and political stability.
 

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Nikšić was good for a couple of hours. There's a very derelict-looking fortress which I believe was part of the old town. I had an explore/climb around that - some nice views too, just make sure you have sturdy shoes/trainers.

I went to "Propaganda" for a beer afterwards and then "Pekara" for a pile of Montenegrin sausages and chips. All very cheap by western standards and all the staff spoke good English.

Ticket office was closed on my return so the conductor sold me a handwritten ticket (!)

I'm on the 0912 to Bar this morning - online seems to suggest it's either unit type but a loco and three carriages have rocked up.

Lots and lots of derelict-looking Riga-built units as you leave Podgorica. There is one out running though.
 
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