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Naples to Rome: IC or high speed?

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eastwestdivide

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Any recommendations for Naples-Rome? I've got a choice of IC via Formia and Latina or the high speed line. Obviously the HS is quicker, but how's the scenery/rail interest on the IC route?
Grazie in anticipo!
 
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Via Cassini/Caserta was good the time I did it, +10 years ago, probably better than the high speed line. I would personally recommend the route.
I suspect that’s neither of your choices above!
 

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I’ve done both, and I can’t remember thinking ‘oh what spectacular scenery’ or ‘oh what unusual trains/rolling stock’ on the slower route.
 

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IC, it's loco hauled and probably a lot cheaper than high speed!
 

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IC, it's loco hauled and probably a lot cheaper than high speed!
Depends how far ahead you book and whether you want flexibility. On the day IC can be double the R fare, or full. A month ahead, Frecciarossa Naples-Rome can be under Eur20.

Italo’s cheapest advance is 14.90, about the same as the walk-up R. Even Salotto is Eur 110 which seems cheap as it’s morepalatial than GB first class.
 

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Thanks people. Was more interested in the route and surroundings.
Ok, have done the route on IC a couple of times, don't remember it being anything outstanding. South of Naples where it goes along the coast was much more memorable.
 

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Via Cassini/Caserta was good the time I did it, +10 years ago, probably better than the high speed line. I would personally recommend the route.
I suspect that’s neither of your choices above!
You see the same scenery via Cassino and Caserta as you do from the high-speed line as they follow each other closely along the same valleys for most of the way....although of course you'll see it much more fleetingly and in less detail from the HSL. The IC route via Formia probably has a greater variety of scenery....starting off with the Roman acquaduct in the Southern outskirts of Rome....then crossing the flat, intensively-cultivated reclaimed Pontine Marshes to Latina and then tunnelling through several high, rugged limestone mountain ranges at right angles to the coast. After the stop at Formia, there are good sea views of the Gulf of Gaeta, and then on the coastal plain between Minturno and Villa Literno you will pass numerous water buffalo farms, whose milk is used to make the famous Mozzarella cheese. After some pretty grim suburbs around Aversa - the only place in Italywhere I have ever been in a train which has been stoned - the final run into Napoli has excellent views of Vesuvius on the left hand side (as do the other two routes).

If you have time to spare in Napoli, I can recommend a visit to the excellent Italian National Railway Museum adjacent to the suburban station at Pietrarsa-San Giorgio a Cremano, on the line towards Salerno. Ideally, spend a day there, with a break for lunch at a local restaurant....but if you only have half-a-day, you should be able to get round most of it.
 

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IC is good, fast running, loco hauled. Sit on right hand side for best coastal scenery. Good views of landscape including Roman aqueduct on left hand side 10 mins after leaving Rome. But if scenery isn't your thing sometimes high speed singles work out cheaper.
 

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My one IC ride on the coastal route included an approach to Naples through Pozzuoli and Napoli Campi Flegri, to Napoli Piazza Garibaldi below Centrale, and on beyond Naples.
Although it's mostly in tunnel, it is interesting and you do get glimpses of the Bay of Naples to the right.
I don't know how many trains take that route these days.
 

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Thanks people. To be clear, it’s from Naples to Rome where I’ve got to make my mind up, plus I’m not stopping over in Naples as I’ve visited already.
 

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My one IC ride on the coastal route included an approach to Naples through Pozzuoli and Napoli Campi Flegri, to Napoli Piazza Garibaldi below Centrale, and on beyond Naples.
Although it's mostly in tunnel, it is interesting and you do get glimpses of the Bay of Naples to the right.
I don't know how many trains take that route these days.
The ICs run via Afragola AFAIK. My memory of the route (on one of the Sicily trains) is that it was pleasantly varied; I don't have much recollection of the HSL which we used northbound (but it had been a long day....).
 
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