• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Northern line broken down train at Kennington today

Techandtrains

New Member
Joined
12 Aug 2020
Messages
1
Location
London
Northern line had a no service on the BPS extension, and no Southbound service between Charing Cross and Kennington from 1215 till 1915 today due to "a faulty train at Kennington"

Anyone have more info on the train fault?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Dstock7080

Established Member
Joined
17 Feb 2010
Messages
3,117
Location
West London
1215: southbound train came to stop one-car short of platform 2 (Charing X branch).
air escaping causing heavy dust cloud.
service suspended southbound Charing Cross-Battersea; northbound Battersea-Kennington.
Two trains stalled behind defective train in section. These were both wrong-roaded back to Waterloo, arriving 1305 and 1325.

Train Operator unable to rectify defect, Train Technician accompanied to site with Duty Manager, traction current off.
Isolations of mainline pipe unsuccessful. Air still fails to build.
After movement of stalled trains above, passengers detrained forward to Kennington station 1345.

Push-out of defective train to Morden arranged. Both trains arrived pfm.2 1540. Concerns around integrity of coupler and gapping issues.
Decision taken to isolate SAPB Spring Applied Parking Brake on defective train and clear Line of trains direct to Morden.
Trains moving 1755. Service resumed to Battersea via Charing X 1815, Kennington via Bank 1815.
Incident train arrived Morden depot 1910.
 

bramling

Veteran Member
Joined
5 Mar 2012
Messages
18,783
Location
Hertfordshire / Teesdale
1215: southbound train came to stop one-car short of platform 2 (Charing X branch).
air escaping causing heavy dust cloud.
service suspended southbound Charing Cross-Battersea; northbound Battersea-Kennington.
Two trains stalled behind defective train in section. These were both wrong-roaded back to Waterloo, arriving 1305 and 1325.

Train Operator unable to rectify defect, Train Technician accompanied to site with Duty Manager, traction current off.
Isolations of mainline pipe unsuccessful. Air still fails to build.
After movement of stalled trains above, passengers detrained forward to Kennington station 1345.

Push-out of defective train to Morden arranged. Both trains arrived pfm.2 1540. Concerns around integrity of coupler and gapping issues.
Decision taken to isolate SAPB Spring Applied Parking Brake on defective train and clear Line of trains direct to Morden.
Trains moving 1755. Service resumed to Battersea via Charing X 1815, Kennington via Bank 1815.
Incident train arrived Morden depot 1910.

Would be interested to know how the spring applied parking brake was “isolated”, as this isn’t possible.
 

Dstock7080

Established Member
Joined
17 Feb 2010
Messages
3,117
Location
West London
Would be interested to know how the spring applied parking brake was “isolated”, as this isn’t possible.
It is with a Train Technician in attendance.
As an Operator I was shown how to release them on D Stock in extreme circumstances
 
Last edited:

rebmcr

Established Member
Joined
15 Nov 2011
Messages
3,933
Location
St Neots
Would be interested to know how the spring applied parking brake was “isolated”, as this isn’t possible.
"Possible" is a relative term.

On an industrial machine, or on a road vehicle, this would be done by using a clamp or strap to wind the brake shoes back, then inserting a pin or block to prevent its return.

Alternatively by disassembling and/or removing the brake entirely.

It's a similar concept to 'scotching' secured pointwork.
 

christopher

Member
Joined
22 Aug 2006
Messages
395
Location
Over there
Not sure on trains but I know on buses you have to have the air built up and handbrake released to wind off the spring brakes normally otherwise it's very hard to do, much harder on a train I'd imagine.
 

bahnause

Member
Joined
30 Dec 2016
Messages
692
Location
bülach (switzerland)
Would be interested to know how the spring applied parking brake was “isolated”, as this isn’t possible.
I have never seen a case where this would not be possible. It normally only takes a few minutes. Of course, if all the parking brakes on the train are affected, it can take a little longer... One of the most important cases in our train driver training on every unit. Everyone gets their fingers dirty.
 
Last edited:

Central

Member
Joined
20 Oct 2017
Messages
77
Location
Irthlinborough
We were told when SAPBs first came in train can move if an air burst puts brake on after the appropriate isolations were done.
 

TripleValve

New Member
Joined
9 Apr 2025
Messages
1
Location
South London
Just a little extra information. The fault has been traced to a wiring issue which was causing the train to constantly "trip down". This stopped the compressors working hence no air. And yes after certain isolations are made, the SAPB's can be isolated.
 

Top