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Purchasing Train Tickets in Switzerland

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Hello,

I am planning a last minute trip to Switzerland and could use some advice on train travel!

Firstly, I am looking to take advantage of the half price Swiss travel pass, does anyone know if you can buy this on the first day of travel at any station? Will it be valid to use from the day of purchase?

Also, I want to make a few trips by train around the country and buy my tickets on the day. Do you know if the ticket machines in Switzerland allow you to pay for your ticket in cash or at least with a Visa Debit card?

Many Thanks for any advice! :D
 
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Just in case the OP isn't already aware, Swiss rail tickets are expensive, even allowing for use of the half fare card. You can however buy a one day SBB pass for CHF 73 (valid all day though there is a cheaper version available for travel after 09:00). This can only be purchased with a valid half fare card. There is more information on the SBB website but I'm on a mobile & can't post the link at present.
 
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All Swiss passes are available over the counter for immediate use, at most larger stations - especially the most common entry points from the UK (i.e. Basel SBB, Zurich Flughafen and Geneve Aeroport)

Ticket machines across Switzerland issue all types of tickets and accept Visa card of all types, but some do not accept notes.

We need to know from the OP if they mean the 'tourist' half fare card or the 'regular' annual half fare card. I have the latter, now confusingly known as Swiss Pass...

AFAIK The former does not convert into an 'all line' day rover as does the latter.

The 'tourist' version is explained here:
https://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holid...nd/swisstravelsystem/swiss-halffare-card.html

The Annual half fare card designed for Swiss home market is explained here:

https://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and-tickets/railpasses/half-fare-travelcard.html




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http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-services/am-bahnhof/dhl-service-point/automatic-ticket-machine.html Explains the ticket machines. So cash would be fine. Visa Debit card isn't listed, Visa credit card is. Isn't your Visa also maestro-enabled?

Because Visa debit cards are processed through the same system as Visa credit cards, provided your Visa debit card is not in some way blocked from international use it will also work fine.

I *have* however noticed problems with a few UK cards, noticeably some issued by the Co-operative Bank/Smile, when using them in Switzerland at SIX Card Services terminals, which is what SBB use. If this problem occurs the machine will appear to freeze for a few minutes but then declines and returns your card. So the first time you use any UK card in a Swiss ticket machine ensure you do it in plenty of time for your train in case this occurs and you have to wait for the decline then go and obtain cash (which is also generally accepted, though it won't take big notes for small fares at the TVM).

By the way, if you do want a full year's Halbtax and will visit Switzerland twice a few weeks apart, unless it's changed with the Swiss Pass you can have it issued to be sent to the station of your choice for collection. You also get a one-month provisional version on a ticket blank for initial use.
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Just in case the OP isn't already aware, Swiss rail tickets are expensive, even allowing for use of the half fare card. You can however buy a one day SBB pass for CHF 73 (valid all day though there is a cheaper version available for travel after 09:00). This can only be purchased with a valid half fare card. There is more information on the SBB website but I'm on a mobile & can't post the link at present.

You'd be surprised - you have to do a lot of travel before that becomes worth it.
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AFAIK The former does not convert into an 'all line' day rover as does the latter.

I don't know if this is the case or not, but it would surprise me, as SBB has always had a simple fares structure, so it would seem odd for it to work with one type of Halbtax and not the other. You may of course be right though - your signature certainly shows this as being your area of expertise :)

Best way to be sure is to purchase the first one from a staffed station, as SBB tend not to take prisoners with the hefty (CHF 90) Penalty Fares.

FWIW from my reading the "Swiss Pass" seems to be a smartcard (ITSO style) that can contain any number of different travel products, one of which is the Halbtax.
 
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Just in case the OP isn't already aware, Swiss rail tickets are expensive, even allowing for use of the half fare card.

Geneva to Zurich, approximately 280 km, 43.50 CHF walk on one-way with Half Fare card. That's about £29.40, valid any time, even peak hours. That's a similar distance to London to Doncaster, where the cheapest walk on single on VTEC is £82.10 (unless you book the day before) and the cheapest walk-on return is £87.60 and in peak hours you are looking at £94 single and £188 return. And you also need to take into account the higher wage levels in Switzerland and strong Swiss franc.
 
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Just to clarify, there is a month's half price card in Switzerland. This is only available to tourists and can be bought at SBB/CFF stations at airports/Basel etc. etc. You can use these to buy daycards/Tageskarte/Cartes Journaliere for travel everywhere in the country: the Swiss have a system under which you can get 6 daycards for the price of 5, so this can work out cheaper than a Swiss Pass.
There is also an annual half price card, now known as a Swiss Pass and issued as a smart card. You need to have a photo to apply this but any staffed SBB/CFF station can issue a temporary card so that you can travel immediately and then they will post the proper card to you later. Again, daycards are available with these.
 

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You need to have a photo to apply this but any staffed SBB/CFF station can issue a temporary card so that you can travel immediately and then they will post the proper card to you later. .

Yes, as in my renewal which I made at Disentis in August then wasted ages at Andermatt ticket office because the MGB ticket lady's machine 'had not been able to read my temporary ticket'

It transpired there was nothing wrong, and other grippers had no such problem.

However, it now takes 4 times longer than it used to for grippers to check your ticket - thanks to 21st century hi-tec...

Of course the real card had beaten me home!

ps annoying the they have abolished the 2 and three year versions






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Sounds a bit like the unhelpful security person at Schoenefeld airport who just kept shouting "Your smartphone is broken" when his scanner could not scan it easily, despite the fact that at no point have I ever had an issue with scanning boarding cards from its screen, thus it is more likely that his scanner was inadequate.

It did work in the end when he took the time to line up the laser marker correctly rather than just waving it around like a fool.
 

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If you buy a supersaver and miss your train or want to get a different train, you buy a normal ticket and get a refund of the supersaver, minus 10 CHF.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-an...persaver-tickets.html?cq_ck=1410520461221#faq

However, this caught my eye:

I bought a normal ticket and only then realised that there were also supersaver tickets available for the same route. Can I get a refund on the normal ticket?

No. Unlike the supersaver ticket, you can use the normal ticket on any timetable connection you wish on your route. You have to decide before you buy whether you want to be flexible or whether you want to stick to a specific departure time.

I thought this didn't make sense, but I guess it means that if you get a normal ticket *online*, then you can't get a refund because online tickets aren't normally refundable. They relax this rule in the situation above. Presumably they can't stop people getting a paper ticket, getting a refund from that, then buying a supersaver online.
 
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