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TheGrandWazoo
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Midland Red's subsidiaries had two rebodied Leopards - Q275/6UOC rebodied after fire and accident incidents. Pics are on Flickr
TheGrandWazoo
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Forgot about that - Q723GHG - think it was a Leyland Tiger testbed. Also did a spell with TM Travel and yep, think it's preserved
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Boro'line Maidstone had Q288 JKO, a Bedford YMT with Wright bodywork. Was originally going to be C204 GKR, but the correct papers were not filed at the time of registration.
Q plates were for vehicles where the origin cannot be proved as far as the DVLA are concerned (and therefore they cant get the correct age related plate). I suspect the rules have changed again since which means there is less need for Q plates to be issued.
Loads of ex-MoD coaches (and probably ex-USAF as well) got Q plates.
As carlberry has said, Q plates are for vehicles where the origin or date cannot be proved as far as the DVLA are concerned. (You can still get them!)
In times gone by, it was more common for vehicle documents to lost/go missing as they were on paper and there was no central database. Now that everything is all on computers its much less common to come across a vehicle that has no documents.
As carlberry has said, Q plates are for vehicles where the origin or date cannot be proved as far as the DVLA are concerned. (You can still get them!)
In times gone by, it was more common for vehicle documents to lost/go missing as they were on paper and there was no central database. Now that everything is all on computers its much less common to come across a vehicle that has no documents.
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Stephensons, Uttoxeter, had a prototype Leyland Olympian, Q246 FVT (photo on Flickr - not mine - here)
As of a year or so back, and I think it's still the case, Q plates still existed as pretty much a last resort for vehicles of uncertain parentage, although DVLA will do their best to issue an age appropriate registration.
If (say) a 1972 vehicle is imported from outside the UK, and some documentation can be produced from the country it was first registered in that proves it's a 1972 vehicle, then DVLA will allocate a 1972 registration number.
They accept quite a range of documents to prove the age of a vehicle, e.g. letter from manufacturer which ties a particular chassis / VIN number to an age.
In the case of classic vehicles, some historic vehicle organisations are authorised by DVLA to vouch for a vehicle that's been imported, or one that's been off the road for so long it's fallen out of the system and was off the books before SORN came along. (if possible, and if the vehicle's identity can be proved, the vehicle's original UK registration number will be reinstated.)
The rules have changed over time - at one point, if you registered a vehicle in a particular year, you got a registration for that year. There were (for example) a couple of London RTLs that got re-imported from Jersey in the 70s that got P suffix registrations (MGP 11P was one . Similarly, there were one or two 1970s coaches that for some reason never saw the light of day until the 1980s that got E - registrations (Brylaine Travel, Lincolnshire, ran E903 DRG for some years.)
And some of the AEC Swift / Merlins bought by London Transport in the late 60s managed to get a registration number a year or two newer than the buses were, as industrial relations problems prevented them entering service the year they were delivered.
I'm pretty sure you can't do that now.
I'm not sure if the owner of a vehicle offered a Q plate also has the option to buy an ageless registration number, either English (pre 1963) or the cheaper option of a N Ireland number...
As of a year or so back, and I think it's still the case, Q plates still existed as pretty much a last resort for vehicles of uncertain parentage, although DVLA will do their best to issue an age appropriate registration.
If (say) a 1972 vehicle is imported from outside the UK, and some documentation can be produced from the country it was first registered in that proves it's a 1972 vehicle, then DVLA will allocate a 1972 registration number.
They accept quite a range of documents to prove the age of a vehicle, e.g. letter from manufacturer which ties a particular chassis / VIN number to an age.
In the case of classic vehicles, some historic vehicle organisations are authorised by DVLA to vouch for a vehicle that's been imported, or one that's been off the road for so long it's fallen out of the system and was off the books before SORN came along. (if possible, and if the vehicle's identity can be proved, the vehicle's original UK registration number will be reinstated.)
The rules have changed over time - at one point, if you registered a vehicle in a particular year, you got a registration for that year. There were (for example) a couple of London RTLs that got re-imported from Jersey in the 70s that got P suffix registrations (MGP 11P was one . Similarly, there were one or two 1970s coaches that for some reason never saw the light of day until the 1980s that got E - registrations (Brylaine Travel, Lincolnshire, ran E903 DRG for some years.)
And some of the AEC Swift / Merlins bought by London Transport in the late 60s managed to get a registration number a year or two newer than the buses were, as industrial relations problems prevented them entering service the year they were delivered.
I'm pretty sure you can't do that now.
I'm not sure if the owner of a vehicle offered a Q plate also has the option to buy an ageless registration number, either English (pre 1963) or the cheaper option of a N Ireland number...
Several buses each year get registations re-issued because they are delivered late (i.e. out of registation year)), and some manufacturers cars routinely hang around for months after manufacturer before registration at various locations. (On the other hand some dealers pre-register cars and then flog them off later on because of various sales incentives!)
A Q plate can be changed to any ageless/NI plate if the owner buys it. To get one of the DVLA issued ageless ones (i.e. to get it for free) the owner would have to prove the age was pre 1963. If the vehicle loses the ageless plate then it should get the Q plate back again.
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If you have a vehicle with a Q plate, you're not allowed to change it.
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