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Routing query - London to Exeter

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I'm going from Exeter Central to Welling (London) on Thursday night on a super-off peak return, coming back Sunday. On the Sunday, I hope to stop off somewhere for national cup cricket, but with the weather looking showery, I'll need to decide if and where I'll stop on the morning. I know that I could break my journey at Wimbledon on this ticket and change at Woking to resume to Exeter. I'm also interested in Winchester as an option to stop off. I thought I would need a day return Basingstoke to Winchester as well, however I noted that itineraries on the journey planner from Winchester to Exeter are routed via Reading (not of interest to me) or via Southampton - around the coast (not via Basingstoke). I wondered therefore if a London to Exeter via Salisbury ticket would be valid to go round the coast - i.e. via Basingstoke, Southampton, Winchester. I thought not, but want to check?
 
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Looking in the middle of the afternoon, there appears to be an XX.42 from Winchester that gets you to Central at X3.38. How much time have you given to change at Basingstoke?
 

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Looking in the middle of the afternoon, there appears to be an XX.42 from Winchester that gets you to Central at X3.38. How much time have you given to change at Basingstoke?
I just put it into journey planner without any amendments. I'm asking whether it's a permitted route to keep going from Winchester via Southampton to Salisbury to Exeter or if I need an additional ticket to go to Winchester
 

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The routeing guide isn't recursive (except for the part of the journey via London), so if you have a London (or Welling)-Exeter ticket there are a number of defined routes. A Winchester-Exeter itinerary will be based on valid routes Winchester-Exeter which are nothing to do with a London-Exeter ticket, they would apply to a Winchester-Exeter ticket instead.
The valid routes for London-Exeter don't include Winchester. They can be followed on the routeing guide maps at https://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps:
  • GW
  • WR
  • LE
  • WX + GW
  • PZ
  • WX + PZ
  • WC + WE
  • WX + WE
  • WE
  • WX + WR
  • WE + GW
and include London (Paddington or Waterloo) to Basingstoke to Salisbury as you'd expect. But don't use information relevant to a Winchester-Exeter ticket if you've got a London-Exeter ticket.

EDIT And not all of these routes will apply to a super off-peak return "VIA HONITON" or "ROUTE LONDON HONITON" which I'm guessing is the ticket you're using, only a subset of the routes which go via Honiton (not unreasonably) are valid for this ticket.


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So, if I understand you correctly, you can go London-Basingstoke on your existing ticket, stay on the same train to Winchester if it's going there and you have already bought a day return Basingstoke-Winchester, return to Basingstoke later and resume your London-Exeter journey from there via Salisbury and Honiton.

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I just put it into journey planner without any amendments. I'm asking whether it's a permitted route to keep going from Winchester via Southampton to Salisbury to Exeter or if I need an additional ticket to go to Winchester
No it isn’t permitted on your Welling-Exeter ticket.

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PS If you want to go London - Basingstoke - Winchester (break) - Southampton - Salisbury - Exeter you can buy a Basingstoke - Romsey day return, which is valid via both Southampton and Salisbury, you can break your journey on the outward ticket at Winchester and you switch to using the return ticket at Romsey, and simply don't use the final Salisbury - Basingstoke part of the journey.
 
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OK thanks, while we're on routes from London to Exeter (on via Honiton, yes) - I believe it's valid to go via Chiswick, via Richmond, or via Teddington and Whitton, but worth checking!
 
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