Rovers at privilege rate

[lawried123]

Hi, I have a retired staff travel card and I have often thought about getting a rover or ranger ticket but when I look in Brfares, it nearly allways says no no fares available. I always thought that rather a shame as I have to then end up buying a whole lot of single tickets. But today somebody told me they had bought an all-line rover at priv rate and they are also retired yet Brfares says not available for retired staff
So I just thought I'd try putting in a normal staff travel card rather than a retired one and lo and behold a whole lot of rover tickets have suddenly appeared at priv rate.
Does anyone know whether that is correct that you cannot buy rovers on a retired staff travel card. It just seemed rather strange to me

Lawrie

 

[RJ]

When I have a minute I will get list of rovers and rangers available with the retired Priv discount for you. If anyone wants to beat me to it, it’s all there in the National Rail Data Portal.

 

[CyrusWuff]

I believe discounted prices for Rovers and Rangers are all set manually, so it's likely to be an oversight that the Retired Priv discount is missing.

I suspect most ticket sellers just use the normal Priv discount for both Active and Retired staff, despite the slight differences between the two.

 

[Tazi Hupefi]

I've never known any ticket office to use the PRD discount code (Staff T/Card Retired) in all my years of service.

Everyone seems to use PRV (Staff Travel Card), including Pricing Managers who set these products up. A lot of commercial/pricing managers wouldn't even know that there is a difference between PRV and PRD - and the form to create or amend products (PAF) combines them - it says Privilege (Staff Travel) PRV/PRD and you tick either "Standard Discount", "No Discount" or "Non-Standard". It's not split out separately.

If there is a PRIV fare, it should be regardless of whether it's PRV or PRD.

 

[greyman42]

Does anyone know whether that is correct that you cannot buy rovers on a retired staff travel card. It just seemed rather strange to me

All rovers are available at priv rate.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

All rovers are available at priv rate.

Does the same apply to (Day) Rangers?

 

[Tazi Hupefi]

Does the same apply to (Day) Rangers?

The general rule is that if the Rover or Ranger is wholly rail based (so no bus link, boats, attractions etc) - then a 75% discount is available, regardless of retired or active.

If it's a local authority product (that's just set up as ranger/rover to be able to retail it via rail systems) like certain tickets around Merseyside, West and South Yorkshire etc - then it's unlikely a discount is available.

 

[RJ]

I've never known any ticket office to use the PRD discount code (Staff T/Card Retired) in all my years of service.

I use it on the rare occasions I see these cards, which has been about 3 times in 14 years.

 

[richardderby]

this is what you want..

Priv Rovers and Rangers 2024

I've extracted the rail rover data for this year from the NFM48 (June - September 2024 fares round) data supplied by the Rail Delivery Group on the National Rail Data Portal. This is filtered to only show the Priv railcard discounted prices, to assist pass holders with easy access to this...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[janb]

I've never known any ticket office to use the PRD discount code (Staff T/Card Retired) in all my years of service.

I use it now for the £4 accompanied child fare now that PRD has been set up properly for that purpose in STAR. (Previously it worked the same as PRV for child discounts so we were frequently unable to correctly issue the flat fare)

 

[RJ]

Requested list of rangers and rovers available under the retired Priv discount code - NFM49 (current fares round) data from the National Rail Data Portal.

There are some clearly missing, such as the All Line Rover so probably better just to get it under the normal Priv discount - which is shown in the second table for comparison. The third table shows an estimate of how many railcards are available for each discount type.

Rover Code    Description                       NLC     Location            Railcard    Cl    Rest    Adult Fare     Child Fare
CCD           CAMBRIAN COASTER DAY RANGER       I395    EXPLORE CAMBRIAN    PRD         2     B1           £4.50           £2.25
FF7           CENTRAL SCOTLAND ROVER            J450    CENTRALSCOTROVER    PRD         2     8F          £13.75           £6.90
CVP           CHERWELL DIDCOT DAY RANGER        I078    CHERWLL BAN-DIDT    PRD         2                                      
CVO           CHERWELL OXFORD DAY RANGER        I079    CHERWLL BAN-OXFD    PRD         2                                      
CVR           CHERWELL READING DAY RANGER       I080    CHERWLL BAN-RDNG    PRD         2                                      
CED           CHESHIRE DAY RGR                  I351    CHESHIRE DAY RGR    PRD         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
C48           COAST & PEAKS 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER    I113    CST PKS 4-8 RVR     PRD         2     B3          £24.20          £11.60
CAM           CUMBRIA DAY RANGER                I021    CUMBRIA DAY RGR     PRD         2     A1          £13.90           £6.65
CRR           CUMBRIA RNDN RBN                  I365    CUMBRIA RND RBN     PRD         2     A1           £9.75           £4.65
CUC           CUMBRIAN COAST DAY RANGER         I366    CUMBRIAN CST RGR    PRD         2     A1           £6.30           £3.00
DER           DEVON EVENING RANGER              I384    DEVON EVNING RGR    PRD         2     DO                              
EM1           EAST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER          I165    EAST MIDS DAYRGR    PRD         2     B3          £12.10           £5.80
E37           EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 3 DAYSIN 7    I115    E MIDS FLEX RVR     PRD         2     B3          £27.80          £13.30
EM7           EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 7 DAYS        I775    E MIDLANDS 7 DAY    PRD         2     B3          £36.10          £17.30
EY9           EAST YORKS ROUND ROBIN            I455    E YORKS R ROBIN     PRD         2     B3           £7.80           £3.70
VDR           EXPLORE CARDIFF & VALLEYS         I494    EXPLORE CDF VL      PRD         2     B1           £3.65           £1.80
W37           EXPLORE NORTH WALES               H515    NMIDWALES 4IN8      PRD         2     B1          £29.75          £14.85
SW3           EXPLORE SOUTH WALES               H746    SOUTH WALES 4IN8    PRD         2     B1          £29.75          £14.85
ECC           EXPLORE THE CAPITAL               I512    EXPLORE CDF CAP     PRD         2     AW           £1.25           £0.60
SW4           EXPLORE WALES                     H743    WALES PASS 4IN8     PRD         2     B1          £37.25          £18.60
WWD           EXPLORE WEST WALES                I355    WEST WALES DYRGR    PRD         2     B1           £3.00           £1.50
SW7           FOSW ROVER 8 IN 15 DAYS           I621    FOSW ROVER 8IN15    PRD         2     B3          £45.10          £22.55
GWE           GREAT WEST WAY EAST 1 DAY         I544    GWE                 PRD         2     W1          £75.20              
GE7           GREAT WEST WAY EAST 7 DAY         I544    GWE                 PRD         2     W1         £171.00          £95.00
GG7           GREAT WEST WAY GLOBAL 7 DAY       I559    GG7                 PRD         2     W1         £256.90         £142.75
GWW           GREAT WEST WAY WEST 1 DAY         I539    GWW                 PRD         2     GW          £29.00          £14.50
GW7           GREAT WEST WAY WEST 7 DAY         I539    GWW                 PRD         2     W1          £75.20          £41.75
TV1           HADRIANS WALL COUNTRY LINE        I299    HADRIANS W CNTRY    PRD         2     B3           £6.75           £3.25
HE7           HEART OF ENGLAND ROVER 7 DAYS     I664    HT OF ENGLAND 7D    PRD         2     B3          £35.75          £17.15
H37           HEART OF ENGLAND RVR 3DAYSIN7     I122    HT ENG RVR 3IN7     PRD         2     B3          £27.25          £13.05
WH8           HIGHLAND ROVER                    H263    HIGHLAND ROVER      PRD         2                 £23.75          £11.90
LDR           LANCASHIRE DAY RANGER             I065    LANCS DAY RANGER    PRD         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
LD1           LINCOLNSHIRE DAY RANGER           I383    LINCS DAY RANGER    PRD         2     B3           £9.20           £4.40
NE8           NORTH EAST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER       I743    FONE FLEXI RVR      PRD         2     B3          £31.70          £15.20
NE7           NORTH EAST 7 DAY ROVER            I803    FONE 7 DAY RVR      PRD         2     B3          £36.40          £17.45
SR3           NORTH EAST ROUND ROBIN            I152    NORTH EAST RND R    PRD         2     B3          £15.55           £7.45
NER           NORTH ENGLAND 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER    I447    NTH ENGLAND RVR     PRD         2     I1          £19.75           £9.50
NES           NORTH OF ENG CITY EXP 4 IN 8      I524    NTH ENG CTY EXP     PRD         2     I1          £24.75          £12.20
NMW           NORTH WALES ALL ZONE              H522    N WALES ALL ZNER    PRD         2                 £10.50           £5.25
N37           NORTH WEST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER       I120    FONW 4IN8DAY RVR    PRD         2     B3          £24.20          £11.60
NW7           NORTH WEST 7 DAY ROVER            I772    FONW 7 DAY RVR      PRD         2     B3          £28.85          £13.80
NWR           NORTH WEST ROUND ROBIN            I465    NTHWST RND ROBIN    PRD         2     B3          £12.30           £5.90
NC8           NORTHCOUNTRY ROVER 4 DAYS IN 8    I744    N CNTRY FLEXIRVR    PRD         2     B3          £30.15          £14.45
SCU           SETTLE & CARLISLE LINE            I733    SETT-CARL RANGER    PRD         2     A1           £9.75           £4.65
SPD           SOUTH PENNINES DAY RANGER         I466    SOUTH PENNIES DR    PRD         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
ST9           SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 4FROM8         J176    SRT OF SCOT 4-8     PRD         2     A1          £37.25          £18.65
ST8           SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 8DAYSIN15      J170    SRT OF SCOT 8-15    PRD         2                 £47.25          £23.65
SID           ST IVES LINE DAY                  I294    ST IVES LINE DAY    PRD         2     A1           £1.00           £0.45
TTD           TYNE & TEES DAY RANGER            I875    TYNE & TEES         PRD         2     B3           £7.10           £3.40
WWR           Waterside Wander Ranger           I690    Waterside Wander    PRD         2     B3           £9.75           £4.85
WM1           WEST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER          I274    WEST MIDS DAYRGR    PRD         2     B3           £8.50           £4.05

Rover Code    Description                       NLC     Location            Railcard    Cl    Rest    Adult Fare     Child Fare
14R           ALL LINE ROVER 14DAY              I662    FRM OF BRIT.14DY    PRV         1     AL         £346.75         £166.40
14R           ALL LINE ROVER 14DAY              I662    FRM OF BRIT.14DY    PRV         2     AL         £227.00         £108.95
R07           ALL LINE ROVER 7DAY               I661    FRM OF BRIT 7DY     PRV         1     AL         £227.00         £108.95
R07           ALL LINE ROVER 7DAY               I661    FRM OF BRIT 7DY     PRV         2     AL         £149.50          £71.75
AP3           ANGLIA PLUS 3 DAYS IN 7           K285    ANGLIA PLUS         PRV         2     B4          £14.20           £4.00
AP4           Anglia Plus 4-Day Rover           K285    ANGLIA PLUS         PRV         2     B4                              
AP1           ANGLIA PLUS DAY RANGER            K285    ANGLIA PLUS         PRV         2     B4           £7.10           £2.00
BV1           BITTERN LINE DAY RANGER           I013    BITTERN ROVER       PRV         2     B6           £3.20           £1.60
CCD           CAMBRIAN COASTER DAY RANGER       I395    EXPLORE CAMBRIAN    PRV         2     B1           £4.50           £2.25
FF7           CENTRAL SCOTLAND ROVER            J450    CENTRALSCOTROVER    PRV         2     8F          £13.75           £6.90
CVP           CHERWELL DIDCOT DAY RANGER        I078    CHERWLL BAN-DIDT    PRV         2                                      
CVO           CHERWELL OXFORD DAY RANGER        I079    CHERWLL BAN-OXFD    PRV         2                                      
CVR           CHERWELL READING DAY RANGER       I080    CHERWLL BAN-RDNG    PRV         2                                      
CED           CHESHIRE DAY RGR                  I351    CHESHIRE DAY RGR    PRV         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
C48           COAST & PEAKS 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER    I113    CST PKS 4-8 RVR     PRV         2     B3          £24.20          £11.60
CRD           CORNWALL RANGER                   J118    RIDECORNWALL        PRV         2     B3           £4.00           £2.00
CE1           COTSWOLDS 1DAY                    I257    COTSWOLD 1-DAY      PRV         2     CE           £3.25           £1.60
CAM           CUMBRIA DAY RANGER                I021    CUMBRIA DAY RGR     PRV         2     A1          £13.90           £6.65
CRR           CUMBRIA RNDN RBN                  I365    CUMBRIA RND RBN     PRV         2     A1           £9.75           £4.65
CUC           CUMBRIAN COAST DAY RANGER         I366    CUMBRIAN CST RGR    PRV         2     A1           £6.30           £3.00
DER           DEVON EVENING RANGER              I384    DEVON EVNING RGR    PRV         2     DO                              
TSA           DEVON RANGER                      I857    DEVON RANGER        PRV         2     B3           £4.00           £2.00
EM1           EAST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER          I165    EAST MIDS DAYRGR    PRV         2     B3          £12.10           £5.80
E37           EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 3 DAYSIN 7    I115    E MIDS FLEX RVR     PRV         2     B3          £27.80          £13.30
EM7           EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 7 DAYS        I775    E MIDLANDS 7 DAY    PRV         2     B3          £36.10          £17.30
ESR           EAST SUFFOLK DAY RANGER           I531    E SUFFOLK RANGER    PRV         2     B4           £5.95           £2.00
EY9           EAST YORKS ROUND ROBIN            I455    E YORKS R ROBIN     PRV         2     B3           £7.80           £3.70
VDR           EXPLORE CARDIFF & VALLEYS         I494    EXPLORE CDF VL      PRV         2     B1           £3.65           £1.80
W37           EXPLORE NORTH WALES               H515    NMIDWALES 4IN8      PRV         2     B1          £29.75          £14.85
SW3           EXPLORE SOUTH WALES               H746    SOUTH WALES 4IN8    PRV         2     B1          £29.75          £14.85
ECC           EXPLORE THE CAPITAL               I512    EXPLORE CDF CAP     PRV         2     AW           £1.25           £0.60
SW4           EXPLORE WALES                     H743    WALES PASS 4IN8     PRV         2     B1          £37.25          £18.60
WWD           EXPLORE WEST WALES                I355    WEST WALES DYRGR    PRV         2     B1           £3.00           £1.50
D07           FODC ROVER 3 IN 7                 I650    FODC ROVER 3IN7     PRV         2     B3          £16.00           £8.00
D37           FODC ROVER 8 IN 15 DAYS           I659    FODC ROVER8IN15     PRV         2     B3          £25.60          £12.70
S37           FOSS ROVER 3 IN 7 DAYS            I863    FOSS ROVER 3 IN7    PRV         2     B3          £19.00           £9.50
WR7           FOSS ROVER 8IN 15 DAYS            I862    FOSS ROVER 8IN15    PRV         2     B3          £25.60          £12.80
TSR           FOSW ROVER 3 IN 7 DAYS            I855    FOSW ROVER 3IN7     PRV         2     B3          £32.40          £16.20
SW7           FOSW ROVER 8 IN 15 DAYS           I621    FOSW ROVER 8IN15    PRV         2     B3          £45.10          £22.55
GWE           GREAT WEST WAY EAST 1 DAY         I544    GWE                 PRV         2     W1          £75.20          £41.75
GE7           GREAT WEST WAY EAST 7 DAY         I544    GWE                 PRV         2     W1         £171.00          £95.00
GG7           GREAT WEST WAY GLOBAL 7 DAY       I559    GG7                 PRV         2     W1         £256.90         £142.75
GWW           GREAT WEST WAY WEST 1 DAY         I539    GWW                 PRV         2     GW          £26.10          £14.50
GW7           GREAT WEST WAY WEST 7 DAY         I539    GWW                 PRV         2     W1          £75.20          £41.75
TV1           HADRIANS WALL COUNTRY LINE        I299    HADRIANS W CNTRY    PRV         2     B3           £6.75           £3.25
HE7           HEART OF ENGLAND ROVER 7 DAYS     I664    HT OF ENGLAND 7D    PRV         2     B3          £35.75          £17.15
H37           HEART OF ENGLAND RVR 3DAYSIN7     I122    HT ENG RVR 3IN7     PRV         2     B3          £27.25          £13.05
TSV           HEART OF WESSEX RANGER            I858    HT OF WSX RANGER    PRV         2     YZ           £6.50           £3.25
WH8           HIGHLAND ROVER                    H263    HIGHLAND ROVER      PRV         2                 £23.75          £11.90
KDR           KENNET DAY RANGER                 I784    KENNET DAY RGR      PRV         2     B1           £4.10           £2.05
LDR           LANCASHIRE DAY RANGER             I065    LANCS DAY RANGER    PRV         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
LD1           LINCOLNSHIRE DAY RANGER           I383    LINCS DAY RANGER    PRV         2     B3           £9.20           £4.40
MAY           Mayflower Line Day Ranger         Z039    SUNSHINELINERNGR    PRV         2     B5           £2.75           £1.30
NDD           NORTH DOWNS DAY RANGER            I358    NTH DOWNS DY RGR    PRV         2     B3           £5.30           £2.65
NE8           NORTH EAST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER       I743    FONE FLEXI RVR      PRV         2     B3          £31.70          £15.20
NE7           NORTH EAST 7 DAY ROVER            I803    FONE 7 DAY RVR      PRV         2     B3          £36.40          £17.45
SR3           NORTH EAST ROUND ROBIN            I152    NORTH EAST RND R    PRV         2     B3          £15.55           £7.45
NER           NORTH ENGLAND 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER    I447    NTH ENGLAND RVR     PRV         2     I1          £19.75           £9.50
NES           NORTH OF ENG CITY EXP 4 IN 8      I524    NTH ENG CTY EXP     PRV         2     I1          £24.75          £12.20
NMW           NORTH WALES ALL ZONE              H522    N WALES ALL ZNER    PRV         2                 £10.50           £5.25
N37           NORTH WEST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER       I120    FONW 4IN8DAY RVR    PRV         2     B3          £24.20          £11.60
NW7           NORTH WEST 7 DAY ROVER            I772    FONW 7 DAY RVR      PRV         2     B3          £28.85          £13.80
NWR           NORTH WEST ROUND ROBIN            I465    NTHWST RND ROBIN    PRV         2     B3          £12.30           £5.90
NC8           NORTHCOUNTRY ROVER 4 DAYS IN 8    I744    N CNTRY FLEXIRVR    PRV         2     B3          £30.15          £14.45
ODR           OXFORDSHIRE DAY RANGER            I432    OXFD DAY RGR        PRV         2     B1           £5.30           £2.65
SCU           SETTLE & CARLISLE LINE            I733    SETT-CARL RANGER    PRV         2     A1           £9.75           £4.65
SPD           SOUTH PENNINES DAY RANGER         I466    SOUTH PENNIES DR    PRV         2     B3           £7.45           £3.55
ST9           SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 4FROM8         J176    SRT OF SCOT 4-8     PRV         2     A1          £37.25          £18.65
ST8           SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 8DAYSIN15      J170    SRT OF SCOT 8-15    PRV         2                 £47.25          £23.65
SID           ST IVES LINE DAY                  I294    ST IVES LINE DAY    PRV         2     A1           £1.00           £0.45
SUN           Sunshine Line Day Ranger          Z039    SUNSHINELINERNGR    PRV         2     B4           £3.10           £1.50
TBR           THAMES BRANCHES DAY RANGER        I066    THAMES BRANCHES     PRV         2     O9           £6.50           £3.25
TR3           THAMES ROVER 3 DAYS               I367    THAMES ROVER        PRV         2     O9          £16.00           £8.00
TR7           THAMES ROVER 7 DAYS               I367    THAMES ROVER        PRV         2     O9          £28.90          £14.45
TTD           TYNE & TEES DAY RANGER            I875    TYNE & TEES         PRV         2     B3           £7.10           £3.40
WWR           Waterside Wander Ranger           I690    Waterside Wander    PRV         2     B3           £9.75           £4.85
WM1           WEST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER          I274    WEST MIDS DAYRGR    PRV         2     B3           £8.50           £4.05
WRR           WHERRY LINE DAY RANGER            I437    WHERRYLINERANGER    PRV         2     B4           £3.20           £1.60

Railcard	Description	Available Rovers
	PUBLIC	2233​
TSU	16 - 17 SAVER	93​
YNG	16-25 RAILCARD	85​
TST	26-30 RAILCARD	75​
ACD	ACCOMPNIED CHILD DIS	9​
NGC	ANNUAL GOLD CARD	19​
YTH	BRITRAIL YOUTH	103​
G5S	CLUB 50 GA - STATION	8​
DRD	DALES RAILCARD	1​
DWF	DERBYSHIRE WAYFARER	1​
DCR	DEVON CORNWALL RCD	8​
DIS	DISABLED ADULT	84​
DIC	DISABLED CHILD	60​
DCG	DVN & CNWALL CRD GLD	6​
FAM	FAMILY & FRIENDS RCD	65​
FIP	FIP DISCOUNT 50%	31​
FIR	FIP DISCOUNT 75%	21​
ABT	MERSEY-ABT	32​
CUR	MY CUMBRIA CARD	1​
NEW	NETWORK RAILCARD	13​
HMF	RAILCARD	79​
SRN	SENIOR RAILCARD	156​
PRD	STAFF T/CARD RETIRED	51​
PRV	STAFF TRAVEL CARD	76​
W18	TfW RS 18 YEAR RC	10​
WSC	TfW RS STUDENT CARD	10​
TAD	TRAVEL AGENTS DISCNT	9​
2TR	TWO TOGETHER R/CARD	83​
VET	VETERANS RAILCARD	72​
WYD	WY CONCESS DISABLED	1​
WYS	WY CONCESSION SENIOR	1​
WMS	WY Under 19 PhotoCrd	1​