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Shipley "triangular station" question
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Yes the bridge is near the back of the train.
I'm afraid I'll have to leave answering the is 4 minutes do-able question to somone with more recent memories of using the station than I have.
But I can explain the "w" in the platform number. It is internal information for the signalling system, and has nothing to do with any part of the physical platform (so you won't see any signs mentioning the "w" at the station)
More specifically, it is effectively an instruction in the timetable, from the timetable planners to the automated route setting system, to use the "warner" route with a shorter overlap (the section of track locked for use by a train that is after the signal it is routed up to) when routing the train into the platform (presumably due to a conflicting train through platform 2 at a similar time I would guess)
"official" websites should just show the base platform number without the suffix, but sites using the open data feeds won't know to show the number differently unless they've specifically had something added to hide it.
I'm afraid I'll have to leave answering the is 4 minutes do-able question to somone with more recent memories of using the station than I have.
But I can explain the "w" in the platform number. It is internal information for the signalling system, and has nothing to do with any part of the physical platform (so you won't see any signs mentioning the "w" at the station)
More specifically, it is effectively an instruction in the timetable, from the timetable planners to the automated route setting system, to use the "warner" route with a shorter overlap (the section of track locked for use by a train that is after the signal it is routed up to) when routing the train into the platform (presumably due to a conflicting train through platform 2 at a similar time I would guess)
"official" websites should just show the base platform number without the suffix, but sites using the open data feeds won't know to show the number differently unless they've specifically had something added to hide it.
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My thoughts exactly.
If the OPs train from Carlisle is late, perhaps gong via Leeds may save minutes. But i dont know if his ticket would allow it.
Certainly is. Far better than the woeful effort on the Natiinal Rail website.
Yes, if you are a good walker, 4 minutes is doable. Off the train, over the footbridge. Turn right. Then cross the car park and turning area with the station building to your right and at the end of the station building will be a gap.
Probably not a problem for your journey but just a heads up that the current May 22 timetable will make Bradford-Ilkley hourly.
Probably not a problem for your journey but just a heads up that the current May 22 timetable will make Bradford-Ilkley hourly.
Thanks for all the helpful replies, that I couldn't have got just from google maps. I forgot to mention that I will have a small toddler in tow, so we'll be lucky if we make it in 4 mins!
That's a shame as it will make future journeys more difficult.
That's a shame as it will make future journeys more difficult.
Also, depending on the time of day, the footbridge and the footpath across the car park can get busy (though I did make 3 to 2 in one minute recently against the tide!). Cutting across the car park itself is shorter but less safe.
There is an alternative route with fewer steps - I have never tested it but it is approximately the same distance: alight from the very front of the train, down the steps, cross Station Approach carefully and turn right on the footpath alongside P3.
Just to add I had this same 4 min. connection to make last week as part of a Northern Rail Advance Purchase ticket (involving multiple connections). The other obstacle was revenue protection, who at the same time the Ilkley train was pulling in to Plat. 3, were failing to get my mobile ticket to scan before letting me onto platform 3. I did successfully make the connection. Clearly having a toddler will make it harder! but still think it's just doable.
In terms of route maybe the best advice is either get off at the back of the train to match up with the footbridge or get off at the very front (which isn't something I've tried) -as when I recently made the connection I reckon I got off halfway down the platform which didn't help.
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Revenue protection are always there, aren't they?
this actually looks a lot simpler to be honest, just checked on google streetview. especially with a pushchair. according to my calc it's 200m as opposed to 190m over the footbridge!
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Not tried it, as TBH it only occurred to me because of your question.
I tested the route via the footpath, P2 and footbridge last night, and it took just inside 2min. Someone cutting across the car park was quicker, and I am a brisk walker!
I have to walk with a stick so fairly slow, even using the lifts it always seems a fair old trek at Shipley to get from Platform 1 across to Platforms 3 and 4. On All Line Rovers and other trips I've stayed at the Ibis (Bradford) Shipley as it's cheaper than hotels in Leeds and is across the road from the station. Shipley always seems to have connections to a fair few places, with the LNER train to London Kings Cross, plenty of trains into to Leeds, and also trains to Ilkley, Skipton and on to Carlisle, Lancaster/Morecambe (Heysham Port) and Bradford so a good place to be based for onward trips.
If looking for where the footbridge, underpass, etc is on platforms, I go with openstreetmap.org. Here's Shipley station:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=shipley station#map=18/53.83351/-1.77361
https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=shipley station#map=18/53.83351/-1.77361
I'm suprised that up and over a footbridge is quicker than down some steps + a straight pavement. Or did you mean to write that the other way round?
The person who overtook me took the beeline route across the car park, I used the footpath from the forecourt to P2, reckoning that you might not want a toddler walking across the car park - but if they're in a pushchair it's less risky.
My instinct is that down the steps is best because fewer people use them. I didn't try it last night as it was rather out of my way.
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