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Strange signal behaviour at Canonbury?

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I've noticed that the eastbound signal on platform 3 (the westbound Mildmay Line platform) is always set at double orange, even when there is an oncoming train. I'm guessing this track is only ever used westbound so this signal isn't currently used. Even so, it seems a little worrying that the "default"/not in use state isn't danger (or off if that makes sense). It's been like this every time I've looked since I noticed a few weeks ago.

Thoughts?
 
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martin2345uk

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what station?

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I remember there was one at Canonbury, which was an outer distant signal (is that the correct term?? My normal UK signalling terminology is rusty!), because the next signal but one was a fixed red, so that signal at the platform couldnt ever show anything else but double yellow.
 
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NL1249 at Canonbury is a distant signal so unable to display a danger aspect on platform 3 , Stratford end .
 

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I've noticed that the eastbound signal on platform 3 (the westbound Mildmay Line platform) is always set at double orange, even when there is an oncoming train. I'm guessing this track is only ever used westbound so this signal isn't currently used. Even so, it seems a little worrying that the "default"/not in use state isn't danger (or off if that makes sense). It's been like this every time I've looked since I noticed a few weeks ago.

Thoughts?
It is a three aspect distant signal used for the bi-directional signalling towards Navarino Road Junction which is used for turnbacks. It cannot show a red aspect.
 

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On the area where my team covered, we once had a failure report from a driver relating to a signal that was apparently showing a green aspect when it should not have been.

It was a "wrong direction" signal on a bi-directional line. As it was a mid section automatic signal for a section of plain line, it showing a green when the section of line ahead of it was clear of trains was correct. As a "right direction" train approached, it would step down to single yellow, then to red. Clearing back to green once the train cleared the controlling track circuit.

This was all in accordance with the circuitry design.

The likely reason that the driver was not accustomed to it showing a green aspect, is that most of the time the signallers kept the panel replacement switch in the red position. Hence most of the time the signal was held at red.

Not all signals have a red aspect and not all signals that can show red, will show red when people may expect it. Also, not all signals are "block" section signals.

It may not be obvious to an observer, but a different signal to the one they are looking at may be the protecting signal that is red to protect a train from a possible following train.

Having said that, if it doesn’t look right, do ask ;)
 

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