Surplus Vivarail D78 Coaches For Scrap

[CStock04]

It seems like Vivarail has been sending their surplus D78 coaches for scrap.

Could this be the end of the Vivarail D Train programme? potentially to make space for the incoming Renatus Class 321s.



This is not my photo (credits go to Steve Riley) photos of these D78s are very scarce at the moment.

Here D78 Stock DM 7534 sits at Wards waiting for the chop. An unfortunate end but that is the life cycle of rolling stock.

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[Speed43125]

Didn't they purchase 150 vehicles at the time? I presume even intelligent asset management would have seen a few scrapped by now (think Mk.IV disposals). The question I suppose is how many of these have been disposed of like this?

 

[D365]

The D78 coaches were reportedly purchased for scrap value anyway. So the only cost to Vivarail has been for transport and storage.

 

[Rob F]

There have been LU coaches in the layby at junction 24 of the M1 quite regularly recently.

 

[Jones_D_Steam]

Can anyone provide me of the D stock numbers and what they formed to make the 230s and 484s please?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Can anyone provide me of the D stock numbers and what they formed to make the 230s and 484s please?

230 001 7058 / 17058 / 7511
230 002 7122 / 7067
230 003 7069 / 7127
230 004 7100 / 7500
230 005 7066 / 7128
230 006 7098 / 17066 / 7510
230 007 7103 / 17063 / 7529
230 008 7120 / 17050 / 7065
230 009 7055 / 17084 / 7523
230 010 7090 / 17071 / 7017

484 001 7086 / 7011
484 002 7068 / 7002
484 003 7051 / 7083
484 004 7074 / 7111
484 005 7124 / 7093

 

[CStock04]

Is anyone aware when the 230 trial runs on the Greenford Branch will commence? this does look like Vivarail's last potential D-Train project customer

 

[JonathanH]

Is anyone aware when the 230 trial runs on the Greenford Branch will commence? this does look like Vivarail's last potential D-Train project customer

Suggestions elsewhere are that there is a trial period of running (empty) at Bletchley first as the charging equipment has been installed there.
https://uk.linkedin.com/posts/julia...50329657344-eYKl?trk=public_profile_like_view

A landmark for fast charging battery trains this week.
Commissioning of the system at Bletchley TMD.

That would appear to suggest that the Greenford trial is still some time off.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I think they'd look rather good in GWR livery.

 

[D365]

Suggestions elsewhere are that there is a trial period of running (empty) at Bletchley first as the charging equipment has been installed there.
https://uk.linkedin.com/posts/julia...50329657344-eYKl?trk=public_profile_like_view

That would appear to suggest that the Greenford trial is still some time off.

The Bletchley demonstration was required to satisfy ORR safety/testing requirements.

 

[JonathanH]

The Bletchley demonstration was required to satisfy ORR safety/testing requirements.

Ah right. Still, it isn't installed at West Ealing yet.

 

[DGH 1]

It seems like Vivarail has been sending their surplus D78 coaches for scrap.

Could this be the end of the Vivarail D Train programme? potentially to make space for the incoming Renatus Class 321s.



This is not my photo (credits go to Steve Riley) photos of these D78s are very scarce at the moment.

Here D78 Stock DM 7534 sits at Wards waiting for the chop. An unfortunate end but that is the life cycle of rolling stock.

View attachment 123929,

Hi everyone, i don't know if it's connected to this, but vivarail have closed their Seaham operation. .

 

[CStock04]

Hi everyone, i don't know if it's connected to this, but vivarail have closed their Seaham operation. .

I don't believe it is related as Seaham was their product support division, probably moving somewhere else

 

[DGH 1]

I don't believe it is related as Seaham was their product support division, probably moving somewhere else

I was wondering if maybe they were cutting back or streamlining the business.

 

[D365]

Hi everyone, i don't know if it's connected to this, but vivarail have closed their Seaham operation. .

As above - Vivarail didn’t store any coaches at Seaham.

 

[Gloster]

Are they retaining any body shells in case of fire or accident damage to one of the existing sets? This would seem to be a prudent measure, but it might fall foul of the usual problem of who pays for something that might not be required.

 

[D365]

Are they retaining any body shells in case of fire or accident damage to one of the existing sets? This would seem to be a prudent measure, but it might fall foul of the usual problem of who pays for something that might not be required.

It’s not known how many vehicles will be disposed.

 

[Russel]

Not sure of the numbers, but there was 2 x D Stock cars on low loaders presumably heading for scrap parked up in the layby on the M42 J10 island in Tamworth at 0100 this morning.

 

[DGH 1]

As above - Vivarail didn’t store any coaches at Seaham.yes

Yes, I know that, my point was that maybe they were cutting back their business for whatever reason.

 

[snowball]

According to post #47 in this thread, Vivarail has filed for administration.

 

[DGH 1]

According to post #47 in this thread, Vivarail has filed for administration.

Hi snowball, thank you for the info, I didn't know that.

 

[Jones_D_Steam]

230 001 7058 / 17058 / 7511
230 002 7122 / 7067
230 003 7069 / 7127
230 004 7100 / 7500
230 005 7066 / 7128
230 006 7098 / 17066 / 7510
230 007 7103 / 17063 / 7529
230 008 7120 / 17050 / 7065
230 009 7055 / 17084 / 7523
230 010 7090 / 17071 / 7017

484 001 7086 / 7011
484 002 7068 / 7002
484 003 7051 / 7083
484 004 7074 / 7111
484 005 7124 / 7093

Brilliant!

What about 230011 - the one that went to the USA?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Brilliant!

What about 230011 - the one that went to the USA?

230 002 is the one that went to the USA...

 

[JonathanH]

230 002 is the one that went to the USA...

A second unit, described as 230011 also went.

UK train manufacturer sends second set of Class 230 battery stock to the US - Rail UK

UK train manufacturer sends second set of Class 230 battery stock to the US - Rail Business

railuk.com

UK train manufacturer sends second set of Class 230 battery stock to the US

April 26, 2022

Vivarail battery-powered train is a first for the Americas.

Vivarail has sent a second set of battery train stock across the Atlantic, as the US looks set to break new ground with the “Pop-Up Metro” concept.

Two cars were shipped to Baltimore on 9 April and will join their sisters in Rockhill Furnace, Pennsylvania, later this month for testing and demonstrations.

The intention is to lease the trains for use in underutilised lines across the US to pursue “Pop-Up Metro” routes, offering lower cost, lower risk, faster starts of rail-based transit services in the Americas.

Henry Posner III, Chairman of Vivarail shareholder Railroad Development Corporation said: “There’s a lot of excitement about the possibilities that our Pop-Up Metro proposition brings to the Americas.

“With two trains we are now positioned to act on multiple opportunities at the same time. This is critical in positioning Pop-Up Metro as an alternative for the industry at a time when both rail access and decarbonisation have become national priorities. It also helps that the trains are stylish and comfortable.”

Steve McBride, Managing Director of Vivarail said: “We’re incredibly proud that the technology we created in the UK is leading the way for battery-powered train operations in the Americas.

“This opens up a new market for Vivarail’s technology and shows that battery-power is a viable and efficient solution to decarbonise the railway.”

For more information, visit vivarail.co.uk.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Right... I'd missed that! A quick look round online and I can't see any reference to what went into 230 011 I'm afraid.