The train that killed the Honeybourne line

[Robspur]

Does anyone know the number of the Peak diesel which was hauling the coal train from Toton to Severn Tunnel Junction which had some of its trucks derail at the rear of the train at Winchcombe on 25th August 1976.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Just found this old thread if of any help?

'Secret' 1976 Winchcombe Derailment

On 25th August 1976 a Toton to Severn Tunnel Junction coal train derailed at Winchcombe, Gloucestershire on what was then the Stratford upon Avon - Cheltenham line via Honeybourne. Enquiries and searches both online and to various local and national archives have failed to locate any photographs...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Cowley]

Just found this old thread if of any help?

'Secret' 1976 Winchcombe Derailment

On 25th August 1976 a Toton to Severn Tunnel Junction coal train derailed at Winchcombe, Gloucestershire on what was then the Stratford upon Avon - Cheltenham line via Honeybourne. Enquiries and searches both online and to various local and national archives have failed to locate any photographs...

www.railforums.co.uk

45076 is mentioned in that thread. I wonder if our @Richard Scott might know if that’s correct?

 

[Richard Scott]

45076 is mentioned in that thread. I wonder if our @Richard Scott might know if that’s correct?

45076 is the number I've heard quoted but never been confirmed.

 

[Gloster]

Wikipedia says 45149, although it does not give a source. However, this may come from a generic photo mentioned in a post related to aliens by GeekExchange on this forum on 11 September 2017. (This is not a joke.)

 

[Cowley]

Wikipedia says 45149, although it does not give a source. However, this may come from a generic photo mentioned in a post related to aliens by GeekExchange on this forum on 11 September 2017. (This is not a joke.)

45076 is the number I've heard quoted but never been confirmed.

Following on from the loco @Gloster mentioned above, 45149 is the Peak you’ve got up there Richard so I’d assume that you’d know if it was your one?

 

[randyrippley]

45076 is mentioned in this old radio broadcast https://www.mixcloud.com/radiowinch...erailment-forming-of-the-gwr-sun-aug-21-2016/
but it's a case of "a mate of a mate said......"

 

[Richard Scott]

Following on from the loco @Gloster mentioned above, 45149 is the Peak you’ve got up there Richard so I’d assume that you’d know if it was your one?

The 45149 quote surfaced a couple of years back whereas 45076 goes back many years. Guessing someone got wires crossed and the rumour that it was 45149 then circulated.

 

[SuspectUsual]

45076 and 45149 were adjacently numbered D134 and D135 - is that a coincidence? (I appreciate the accident was post-TOPS, it just seemed an oddity)

 

[ac6000cw]

Given that 45149 was a '45/1' ETS fitted loco, primarily converted for and used on MML passenger services in the 70's, I would have thought it was a lot less likely to turn up on a coal train in Gloucestershire than a 45/0.

 

[Richard Scott]

Given that 45149 was a '45/1' ETS fitted loco, primarily converted for and used on MML passenger services in the 70's, I would have thought it was a lot less likely to turn up on a coal train in Gloucestershire than a 45/0.

That was along lines of my thinking too.