Time for Southeastern to call at Clapham High Street all day?

[LLivery]

With usage at Clapham High Street being 1 million, higher than both Penge West and Anerley, isn't it time Southeastern began calling some services all day? It could be:

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  The two London Victoria - Dartford via Lewisham & Bexleyheath trains which already go through the platforms
  
  Or two of the four London Victoria to Orpington services
  
  Or both (which would make roughly a 15 min frequency with its current timetable).

Services direct to London Victoria all day again I'm sure would be appreciated as its much faster than changing at Clapham Junction. Additionally direct services to Bromley, Herne Hill (for Thameslink) and Lewisham (for the DLR and other SE routes). It would also allow people to change onto the Northern line without going London Bridge.

The only problem I can think of is platform lengths as trains get up to 10 cars but lengthening is possible west to about 8 cars.

 

[bicbasher]

Are the Networkers on the Vic to Dartford service capable of SDO? I thought one of the issues of the loss of services on the Greenwich line once trains can't serve Charing Cross is that the Networkers can't do that because of the short platforms at Woolwich Dockyard.

 

[otomous]

Length is indeed the main problem yes. Clapham High St is 4 coaches (being extended to 5?). Whilst many of the off peak services are only 4 cars anyway the peak ones are usually 6-8 that pass here. Also though I don't know enough about the abstraction of traffic if SE were to stop here, there could be an issue with capacity on the trains themselves ie already full in the peaks. If 8 car platforms could be built on the Chatham lines then you still have the latter problem - unless sufficient traffic transfers from Brixton perhaps?

 

[Bald Rick]

Surely, anyone from that neck of the woods who wants to go to Victoria would find it easier to use the northern to Stockwell and cross platform onto the Vic line. Yes it's busy, but is a lot more frequent. And also for those with a destination beyond Victoria, you would already be on the tube.

 

[cle]

Length will eventually go to 6 cars - but 8 is very possible there. It's interesting - it's a packed station now.

I wonder if any plans for Brixton would get that to 8 cars - to be able to have the Southeasterns too.

Wandsworth Road - no need.

 

[swt_passenger]

Didn't TfL/DfT and NR review all this in the run-up to the SLL extension, and come to the conclusion that SE services were too full to stop at this station, especially in the peaks?

There were a load of consultation reports about it on TfL's website at one time; but I think they remove everything once complete. Nothing found by Google anyway...

 

[LLivery]

Didn't TfL/DfT and NR review all this in the run-up to the SLL extension, and come to the conclusion that SE services were too full to stop at this station, especially in the peaks?

There were a load of consultation reports about it on TfL's website at one time; but I think they remove everything once complete. Nothing found by Google anyway...

I always thought it was rejected as they believed passenger numbers where too low to justify stopping there. But seeing passenger numbers more than doubled since Southern ended I think that isn't accurate anymore.
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Surely, anyone from that neck of the woods who wants to go to Victoria would find it easier to use the northern to Stockwell and cross platform onto the Vic line. Yes it's busy, but is a lot more frequent. And also for those with a destination beyond Victoria, you would already be on the tube.

300,000 people used it just before ELL started, even though the Northern line goes direct to London Bridge and as you said they could change at Stockwell for Victoria. I'd rather a direct non-stop service to Victoria if that was my local than having to get two hot underground services. As proven by LO, people don't want to just go Central London. Trains would go Lewisham, Herne Hill, Bromley, Dartford and Orpington as well.
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Length will eventually go to 6 cars - but 8 is very possible there. It's interesting - it's a packed station now.

I wonder if any plans for Brixton would get that to 8 cars - to be able to have the Southeasterns too.

Wandsworth Road - no need.

Agreed with Wandsworth Road. As for Brixton, which plans are you referring too?

 

[bicbasher]

Which units are used on the very limited service to and from Victoria which call at Clapham High Street?

 

[causton]

Which units are used on the very limited service to and from Victoria which call at Clapham High Street?

A single 465 unit. (465037 when I first took it if you were interested )

 

[user15681]

Which units are used on the very limited service to and from Victoria which call at Clapham High Street?

Currently, only one scheduled service, the 05:30 Victoria to Bromley South, diagrammed for 1x 375/3.

 

[Metobusfan]

Currently, only one scheduled service, the 05:30 Victoria to Bromley South, diagrammed for 1x 375/3.

Isn't that the one that goes ECS to Maidstone after bms

 

[user15681]

Isn't that the one that goes ECS to Maidstone after bms

Indeed, that's the one.