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Trip report - Manchester to Barcelona on the trains.

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TheSmiths82

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I have just got back from a 10 day rail trip to France and Northern Spain. I deported on a Monday from Stockport to London Euston. The Avanti train turned up with just a minor delay getting to London. I spent the night in London before getting Eurostar to Paris.

Security at St Pancras was a bit of faff and it seemed like age before all my belongings came out of the X-ray machine. At one point I thought I would be stranded in London with no money or ID on me, it was probably only two minutes, but it felt like an eternity. The train was on time and in the main relaxing although I always a tiny bit nervous when it goes under the tunnel. I am amazed that I had great internet access under the tunnel (more on this later).

I arrived in Paris late afternoon (I will make a separate thread of an issue I had at Gare Du Nord) and as I had a very early (around 6:30am) train the following day to Barcelona I change my hotel to one in walking distance of Gare De Lyon.

As morning fell I travelled first class in a single seat on the SNCF service to Barcelona. This was great although at around 7 hours it was a long trek. I found the double decker TGVs to be a bit cramped and luggage storage was a bit of an issue.

I arrived at Barcelona mid-afternoon with the train being on time and spent a night in Barcelona before spending a few days in Santa Susanna the next day traveling on the rather packed local Rodalies train. I spent a few days here to relax, travelling into Calella for one of the days. I needed a few days not waiting for trains and hanging around train stations.

On Monday I then travelled to Perpignan where my idea was to spend a night there and then get the night train to Paris the next day. I got the Rodalies train to Gerona and then I had to hang around there for a few hours in the sweltering 35c heat. I then had to go through security (actually just a x-ray scans for my luggage) to then be told to wait in a departure lounge. After what felt like an age I was finally on the train to Perpignan. I checked into my cheap hotel and my view was of the mountains. It was amazing. My hotel was opposite some busy bars so I spent a few hours outside these. I was then starting to dread this night train as I had a seat not a bed. It was also sold out and the idea of sitting next to a stranger for 12 hours was started to dwell on me. I woke up the following morning at around 7:00am and knew I couldn’t face it. I looked to see if I could get another train to Paris the following day. I managed to get a I:00pm (ish) fast TVG service for 88 euros (I got a small refund back on the other ticket). I promptly booked that and other night at the hotel. This allowed me to fully explore Perpignan and I fell in love with the place despite it being 40c.

The next day it was time to get the 5 hour train service to Gare De Lyon. This arrived on time and I got to Paris around 6:00pm. I then had a bit of a job getting to my hotel as I had originally planned to be in Paris for an entire day. I finally checked in and got the Eurostar the next day to London. Apart from the confusing passport E-gates the journey was fine with a minor delay caused by signalling problems at Lille. Arriving in London at around 1:30. I then spent a few hours the Euston/Kings Cross area before getting my Avanti back to Manchester.

I was amazed of how good the internet signal was on the TVG, I had good signal the entire journey. On the Avanti services I had barely anything. If France can do it, why can’t we?

All in all, it was a great trip, although I wish I spent more time in Paris, the Olympics were the main reason for not doing so. I also found Paris to be a nightmare in terms of public transport, but I am going to make a separate thread on that topic. The Eurostar needs more Staff at Gare Du Nord, I found the security process a bit confusing and my stress and anxiety levels were extremely high.

I haven’t done of these trips since before Covid but going to areas I know well helped reduce my anxiety levels. Apart from coming back, I have a single day where I had to make vital connections. This helped reduce the stress levels too, as if it a train was late wasn’t really a disaster just annoying.

Thanks for the people on this group for helping me too with some of my questions before I booked this trip.

If I do this trip again to Spain I think I will try and go via Lille and Lyon next time, as I would like to avoid Paris. Paris for several reasons was the cause of a lot of the stress on the trip.
 
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geoffk

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You had to go through x-ray scanners to leave Girona for Perpignan? Is that normal between Spain and France (I've only done it 57 years ago!) as both countries are in Schengen. Were you travelling on your own? I guess if you are part of a group any stress and anxiety about connections can be shared. Avoiding station changes in Paris is probably desirable although overall journey time is likely to be longer.
 
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rvdborgt

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You had to go through x-ray scanners to leave Girona for Perpignan? Is that normal between Spain and France (I've only done it 57 years ago!) as both countries are in Schengen.
It has nothing to do with Schengen. Renfe (or is it ADIF?) basically organise secutainment or all services on high-speed lines.
 

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Excellent trip report.

You may not have had the luxury of choosing which month to visit 'the Continent', but my preference is always to visit in September to early November or March to early May, as European summers can be warm to hot.

We spent four nights in Girona (using the TGV from Paris to get there) in 2022 but being October, the temperature was very pleasant. A shame you didn't travel on 'le petit tren de juene' or similar out of Perpignan, something I did years ago.

Most annoyingly, many hotels still lack aircon. That's historical, and retorfitting may be difficult in listed buildings, but even if it isn't, hoteliers don't seem to want to spend the Euros to do it. Perhaps they believe the investment case doesn't stack up?
 

dutchflyer

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Just Girona to Perpg could better be done-and on an I-Rail without any surcharge-or probably for less as the cost of a ´travelday´ on the regional trains, changing at the border stop. As usual seat61 has all that info made for british eyes. This region in FR-Occitanie, also offers a cheap (10€/day-MIN 2 days, max 5) tourist ride-at-will ticket, must be done online (on the gare they claimed to not even know about it) before.
Hint-also perhaps for others: I myself often use the HTls of the HotelBB chain-they all have AC and are often close by to trainstations. Basic and mostly aiming short stays-NO restrt other as for brekkie. In DE and FR-in DE they are taking over and adapting a lot of former IBis Hotels. IBIS- (NOT the Ib budget!) is very heavy in FR of course and booked best via its own site: all.accor. Prices fluctuate quite a lot on how far advance and on what day, but often a stay for the night is around 50/60€
 
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