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Wagon type Sefoors / Sefoorss

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Siggi155

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Hi everybody,
Last week I had to drive a freight train from Hannover to Leipzig. When I saw the train I was wondering about the type of wagons it consisted of, never had seen anything comparable before in Germany. They had 5 sections bound together and put on 6 bogies (4 jacobs bogies). It was named as a special flat wagon (S), the type inscription said: "Sefoors" and "Sefoorss". It has a dark tarpulin cover and bellows at its bending. It was registrated at BR and it there was a "CT"-logo painted on its wall, so it is suitable for channel tunnel freight trains, I know.
What kind of load are these wagons for? Is it possible that it is used as a new-car-carrier? There is a large BMW factory in Leipzig. Does anyone know which destination these trains are running? I forgot to see the car list of this train where the departing station is usually named.
When I was driving I noticed that the whole train was braking really bad. I always had to begin braking with the emergency position of my control handle, otherwise I would have a signal overrun. Does anyone know what kind of control valve is used in this type (I forgot to look after when I finished the trip in Leipzig) ? And why these wagons have such a poor braking habit when beginning to brake?
Thank you for your information..
 
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might be new container wagons for FreightLiner Poland from the UK, as they are in 3 wagon formations semi-permanentley coupled by bars with no chain / vacuum (or air) brake pipe in between. They can take a few wagons - half the container trains I see have about 4 on them wedged right at the back :lol:
 

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The indication Sefoors/Sefoorss stands for a:

- flat car of the special type with bogies (S);
- with two decks, suited for transport of vehicles (e);
- suited for traffic to Great Britain (f);
- composed of four or more parts (oo);
- articulated car (r);
- suited for traffic of 100 km/u (s) or 120 km/u (ss)
 

Siggi155

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could it be the blue cartics that bmw use here in the uk, but have some abroard?
not my picture.
http://jamespower1st.fotopic.net/p39657980.html

Yes, that is exactly the type I mean. :grin:

Thank you very much. I wasn't able to take a picture myself, cause I was driving at night.

The indication Sefoors/Sefoorss stands for a:

- with two decks, suited for transport of vehicles (e);

And that is the sentence I searched for. Thank you, too..

Yesterday I saw a full train of those wagons again here in Germany. Coming from Leipzig it drove westbound near Hannover. But I couldn't find out the destination these trains are running. Maybe there are more BMW trains between Leipzig and anywhere in the UK next time.
 
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