What TPE could look like by 2050

[TheGuy77]

For Ideas, Suggestions and Speculations of what TransPennine express could look like in the future with new services, stations and trains.

 

[The Planner]

It won't exist I expect.

 

[swt_passenger]

This sort of new thread comes up regularly, but it’s usually best to include some of your own new ideas, otherwise it’s too open a question.

Here’s a couple of previous threads about TPE, but there are many more.
January 2023:

Future of TPE

In your ideal outcome, what would you like to see happen to TPE? It's been hinted by Huw Merriman today that the company could bevmerged with Northern; as far as I'm concerned that would be the best option, but how would that work in practice? And is that the best course to pursue?

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December 2023:

TPE Future Network

With TPE potentially ordering 29 new trains, what north trans pennine network be developed that purely operates with the 29 trains alone? For example: Liverpool - Newcastle Liverpool - York Manchester Airport - Hull Manchester Airport - Middlesbrough Manchester Piccadilly - Huddersfield...

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[TheGuy77]

What about some new services like 1tph from Liverpool-Newcastle via Sheffield?

 

[JonathanH]

What about some new services like 1tph from Liverpool-Newcastle via Sheffield?

Can you elaborate as to who that would be useful for, and whether it would replace other services?

 

[TheGuy77]

It would provide additional services from Sheffield-Newcastle, and could replace XC's doncaster Route.

 

[JonathanH]

It would provide additional services from Sheffield-Newcastle, and could replace XC's doncaster Route.

Would XC run to Cleethorpes instead of TP, or alternatively a three way switch of XC Reading to Hull, Northern Sheffield to Cleethorpes and TP Liverpool to Newcastle via Sheffield and Doncaster?

 

[YorkRailFan]

It would provide additional services from Sheffield-Newcastle, and could replace XC's doncaster Route.

Why not just run a Sheffield-Leeds-York-Newcastle-Edinburgh-Glasgow TPE service at that point?

 

[JonathanH]

Why not just run a Sheffield-Leeds-York-Newcastle-Edinburgh-Glasgow TPE service at that point?

Or just keep it with XC?

 

[YorkRailFan]

Or just keep it with XC?

Make it (Glasgow) more frequent and I agree.

 

[Grumpy]

For Ideas, Suggestions and Speculations of what TransPennine express could look like in the future with new services, stations and trains.

Well by 2050 the TP Upgrade/electrification might be approaching completion. There will also be much speculation on these forums as to where the 185's might be redeployed

 

[Bevan Price]

It won't exist I expect.

Agreed. Hopefully rail passenger services will be planned more logically, without artificial splits / boundaries and fragmentation devised by some DfT person or consultant.

 

[brad465]

When climate change has flooded most of Britain TPE will be the largest operator in the UK

 

[Snow1964]

7th May 2024, DfT has published the new Transpennine contract, business commitments and train services

(long documents so not practical to quote)

TransPennine Express Railways 2023 OLR rail services contract

Services contract and ancillary legal documents for DfT OLR Holdings Limited and TransPennine Trains Limited.

www.gov.uk