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What would a 21st century livestock wagon look like?

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linmanfu

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British Rail pulled out of livestock traffic in 1973 or 1975 (sources vary), so it has been many decades since livestock wagons have been manufactured in the UK.

But if new livestock wagons were to be built, would they look like in the 21st century?

Minimum requirements
  • They would be air-braked as is now standard for all freight wagons.
  • They would need to conform with the European Convention for the Protection of Animals during International Transport. The key parts are:
    • Art. 6.1: "Animals shall be provided with adequate space and, unless special conditions require to the contrary, room to lie down."
    • Art. 6.3: "During transport and handling, containers shall always be kept upright and shall not be exposed to severe jolts or shaking."
    • Art. 6.4: "Animals shall not be left more than 24 hours without being fed and watered."
    • Art. 13: "Animals shall only be loaded into ... vehicles ... which have been thoroughly cleaned. Dead animals, litter and excrements [sic] shall be removed as soon as possible."
    • Art. 17: " If no [railway] trucks particularly adapted for transport of animals are obtainable, animals shall be carried in covered trucks which are capable of travelling at high speed and are provided with sufficiently large air vents. They shall be constructed so as to prevent animals from escaping and ensure their safety. The interior sides of the trucks shall be of wood or other suitable material completely smooth and fitted with rings or bars at suitable height to which the animals may be attached."
    • (BTW this is a Council of Europe standard, so Brexit is irrelevant.)
Initial thoughts
  • I think it would be hard to justify the cost of air conditioning, so most of the sides of the vehicles would be taken up with ventilation panels.
  • Since we no longer allow the disposal of human waste onto the track, we wouldn't allow animal urine and excrement either. So they would need some kind of floor drainage and a storage tank, as livestock wagons on ferries had.
  • The vehicles would need near-human levels of ride quality and would travel at speeds similar to passenger vehicles, so the wagons must have bogies, which work well with longer rather than shorter wagons.
Background: Why did BR pull out of livestock traffic?
It wasn't due to any any technological obstacle. Livestock is still carried by rail in the US. In Australia's Northern Territory, rail livestock traffic did not peak until the 1980s and while it closed in 1998, there are plans to reintroduce it. Livestock wagons were and still could be built if operators wanted them.

Nor was it due to animal welfare concerns. Those of us who have the misfortune to use Pacers or Azumas know that passenger comfort hasn't always been the highest concern of British railway operators, but we weren't literally being treated worse than cattle! If people can be humanely carried for long distances, so can animals.

British Rail chose to pull out of livestock traffic because demand had fallen. The mid-twentieth century saw the rise of motor vehicles that could compete with the railway on speed and cost, but had the added advantage of being more flexible. This was because the UK government created a network of motorways for the long-distance part of journeys, while local authorities provided relatively high-quality roads for the first mile from the farm.

In addition, the electrification of society in the mid-20th century changed the nature of the meat market. In the Americas, the early twentieth century was the heyday of cattle being driven en masse to the railhead and then transported to the giant meatpacking plants of Chicago, Fray Bentos, or Kansas City. Refrigerated wagons took the chilled or frozen meat to the port, then the great reefer ships brought it across the oceans from the Americas (and sometimes Australasia) to Great Britain. The abattoirs, wagons, and reefers all used mechanical refrigeration, which had very high capital costs. The small volumes of domestic production in Great Britain and Ireland could not justify this expensive equipment and most farms were within easy reach of metropolitan markets by rail (and later HGVs), so the animals were slaughtered close to the consumer.

In the second half of the 20th century, the spread of electric, containerized, and computerized refrigeration changed this situation. Since the cold chain could begin at small-scale producers, it was more profitable to slaughter the livestock close to the farm and then transport the chilled meat to consumers and the by-products to industry (the meat alone is never profitable). In addition, meat production in Great Britain and Ireland rose considerably, not because more animals were raised, but because scientific breeding and industrialized farming increased the quantity of meat obtained from each animal.

Why might British railways get back into livestock traffic?
In the last couple of decades, the tendency has been for slaughtering of domestic production to be centralized at a smaller number of larger abattoirs. Meat sales have moved from butchers, who would naturally get meat from local abattoirs and were largely price takers, to supermarkets, who prefer centralized distribution systems and impose ferocious pressure to reduce prices (so the economies of scale of larger abattoirs become more important). At some point, it might become economic to move livestock from regional collection hubs to a handful of very large abattoirs.

In addition, the UK's climate change commitments mean that it needs to reduce its use of fossil fuels. Moving freight from fossil-fuel HGVs to electrified railways is one way to do that.

I contribute to the open-source transport simulation Simutrans. Our simulation of British transport does not currently have post-1975 livestock wagons. However, this is not a great decision. Operators are not given advance knowledge of vehicle availability (production end dates are hidden), so livestock wagons should not inexplicably become unavailable at an apparently arbitrary date — perhaps just after you've built a new railway to a sheep-farming region.

In addition, BR's decision was driven by falling demand for livestock traffic by rail. Those factors do not apply in Simutrans for reasons that I explore in detail on the International Simutrans Forum, if you are interested. Some of that post has been reproduced here.

So I need to design livestock wagons for the post-1975 era.
 
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Pressure ventilation ( with heating ) might be fine - no need to make the entire side vents, which doesn't do wonders for structural integrity - plus you absolutely don't want pockets of methane. Animal waste isn't useless either, so you'd want to probably turn it into slurry as part of the washing process & then decant it off into a tanker. Otherwise, consider it coaching stock.
 

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Pressure ventilation ( with heating ) might be fine - no need to make the entire side vents, which doesn't do wonders for structural integrity - plus you absolutely don't want pockets of methane. Animal waste isn't useless either, so you'd want to probably turn it into slurry as part of the washing process & then decant it off into a tanker. Otherwise, consider it coaching stock.
Investigating your point about pressure ventilation lead me to DEFRA's Livestock transport vehicles: A guide to best practice for vehicle ventilation, which contains the following very useful advice:

DEFRA said:
It is better to install fans at one end of the vehicle container and
apertures at the other end (with closed sides in between). The direction
of airflow created by the fans should enhance the natural airflow
within the container caused by the vehicle’s forward movement.
Extraction fans at the front and natural inlet apertures at the rear are
probably the most effective arrangement.
However, in case of mechanical failure, a fan ventilated vehicle should
always have the capability of opening sufficient side apertures to enable
emergency natural ventilation.
....
This is the preferred method of ventilating livestock vehicles.

That has completely changed the way I think about ventilating these vehicles. Thank you!
 

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Livestock is still carried by rail in the US.
I don't believe it is (and hasn't been for some years) e.g. see this thread on Trains - https://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/192528.aspx?page=1 (and I've been on many train-watching visits to the US and never noticed any cattle transport on trains).

And personally I think it's very unlikely we'll see livestock transport by rail again in the UK. Transport is stressful for the animals (which tends to reduce the quality/weight of the end product), so minimising the transit time and number of trans-shipments I would think is important (and weighs heavily against using rail for part of the journey). If the range of an electric truck is too limited to reach the current abattoirs, then build a few more (or maybe come up with a mobile abattoir that can visit the farms).
 

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total waste of time
Farms aren't rail connected
Auction marts aren't rail connected
Slaughter houses aren't rail connected

And even if they were connected, at absolute maximum a farmer is only going to move 20-30 cattle at a time, usually less. At most half a waggon. Hardly economic
 

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This was a really interesting forum question!

I found some interesting results on this page on wikipedia:



This was an interesting quote:

By the 1970s containerisation was starting to become popular, and so the M-series wagons were slowly being replaced by MC containers, which could be placed on container wagons. This was not for transshipment purposes, but because when the cattle fitting was not in use the container wagon could be used in regular traffic.

Also this picture of a short container wagon with livestock 'container' on top:




So it might be what you actually get is a special type of container, rather than a complete wagon.

Although that doesn't immediately solve the question of whether forced ventilation is required.
 

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This was a really interesting forum question!

I found some interesting results on this page on wikipedia:



This was an interesting quote:



Also this picture of a short container wagon with livestock 'container' on top:




So it might be what you actually get is a special type of container, rather than a complete wagon.

Although that doesn't immediately solve the question of whether forced ventilation is required.
You do realise that's discussing Victoria, Australia and not Victorian railways in the UK?
 

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Yes, the Australians seem to have continued using livestock wagons a bit later and it seemed an interesting example of where the state of the art might have been.

American examples, which seemed to have also stopped in the 1980s, mostly used older wagons, which aren't interesting (if we're thinking about modern possibilities anyway, the wagons may be of interest for other reasons)

There were some interesting designs used for transporting pigs dating from the 1960s, but I can't find pictures, only descriptions.


Remember the original reasoning for the question being asked is not reality, but a video game....
 
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total waste of time
Farms aren't rail connected
Auction marts aren't rail connected
Slaughter houses aren't rail connected

And even if they were connected, at absolute maximum a farmer is only going to move 20-30 cattle at a time, usually less. At most half a waggon. Hardly economic
This is beside the point of the question asked.
 

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Take a look at any train near London at 8am on weekday mornings - that will answer OP's question! ;)
 

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Given the need for passenger like speeds and performance, surely multiple units are the way to go here?

The faster the livestock can get to the destination the less stressful it is for them.
 

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Something a bit like a 325 maybe? Definitely seems plausible.
Could they be converted from something or need a special build?


As a side note, I recall a fairly recent BBC documentary ('Full Steam Ahead' I think?) where they transported sheep by rail
That was a 4 wheel open top wagon and the sheep seemed quite happy.

Doesn't meet the covered requirement though....

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