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WMR - Refused refund on abandoned journey

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Nova1

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So the other day, as usual on the snow hill lines, my train home was cancelled (as was the next one)

I had an Anytime Day Return as an eticket, and had used the outward portition in the morning, I would have used the inward portion that evening.

Because of all the cancellations, I managed to get a lift home with a friend (and so abandoned my inward journey)

Since I'd bought these tickets through the WMR app, I called a number I'd been given to ask for a refund (as the journey was abandoned)

Here's where it gets a little weird - even though no Advance tickets are sold for this route (only day return ticket types are anytime and off peak), the app still makes you pick a service so it can charge you the correct fare. I often don't know exactly what train I'll travel on home, so I select the one that'll be first possible for me to use. This wasn't the service I intended to use on this day though, however the service I selected in the app ran on time.

Worth nothing that the eticket is simply labelled "Anytime day return" with no other restrictions.

However, I was told by the guy on the phone that they would be unable to give me a refund because the train I'd selected in the app wasn't delayed/cancelled.

Surely this is incorrect, especially as if I buy a paper ticket from a TVM or ticket office I am not asked which service I'd like to use.
 
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alistairlees

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You are correct and are entitled to half the fare back. Assuming that a return costs twice as much as a single. With no admin fee.
 

STINT47

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This is incorrect advice and poor customer service. The app requires you to select a service but this does not mean that you have to travel on it or that you cannot use a different train.

I would write to WMR to request a refund and to complain about the service/incorrect information given on the phone. I would also ask to be compensated for the inconvenience that this has caused but don't hold your breath on that.
 

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Unfortunately, in many cases the cost of a single is very similar to the cost of a return, so you will only receive a very small refund. Nevertheless it will be something.

Morally you would be entitled to half the fare back under Delay Repay but this always gets murky when you don't take a train to complete your journey.
 

js517

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Unfortunately, in many cases the cost of a single is very similar to the cost of a return, so you will only receive a very small refund. Nevertheless it will be something.

Morally you would be entitled to half the fare back under Delay Repay but this always gets murky when you don't take a train to complete your journey.
For journeys where the inbound of a return is abandoned due to service disruption the refund due is 50%. The single price doesn't come in to it, that only applies when the customer chooses not to travel for some other reason.

NRE Knowledge base said:
The following special conditions apply to "severe disruption" refunds:
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Return portion of ticket unused : Refund 50% of price paid for the return ticket
 
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