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Take 1: 18/2/17 (yes, I know it's 2 weeks ago, stop sniggering)
So, to introduce my attempted trip reports, an admission. These will look a little different to everyone else's reports because...I'm not a basher.
Of anything.
I don't keep track of what individual train I'm on, I don't keep count of how many stations I've seen, I don't mark off every piece of track I know (I know, this is already a pretty rubbish trip report, isn't it). I travel by train (& bus too) to visit new places - & even with what I've said above, I will generally try to get either unvisited places, unseen lines, & although the individual numbers don't bother me - the insides of each type are the same, except for 377s, where each one seems somehow different - unused classes of train each time.

In addition, I also take things a bit slower than many here, as I will make stops in towns along the way. Several years ago, I discovered that bus timetables, where you can get them, are actually very good free souvenirs of places you've visited. As a result, in most places I stop, I will stop for a while, to mung round, see the place, & drop in on the Tourist Information Centre - where they still exist.

And so, it was time to set off on a 9-train loooop around 4 counties, while travelling a straight-line distance of...not far. Worthing to Tonbridge. You'd think it'd be simple...hahano.

And so it begins, the usual walk down the A24 (on the pavement :p) & through the hideous crumbling monstrosity of a car park that welcomes our visitors (I can only apologise) to Worthing station. £10.10 for the ticket - some good value - & as 09:11 came, after I attempted to feed my 16-25 railcard to the barrier yet again, so did Unidentified 377 #1. Rammed, as always, but it was only for somewhat less distance than normal - to Burgess Hill.

After a definite blast, rather than mung, into town & back, my arrival back on Platform 1 was greeted by the distinctive vwoopvwoopvwoop of a Desiro - Unidentified 700. Why do people hate these things? Ok the seats aren't made for going the whole distance, but for a quick run they're adequate, & the in-car screens are the best new thing I can remember on a train. They really should become standard, the loading indicator & TFL status are so useful.

Into Gatport Airwick for the change to Redhill, the station deciding to send me into the baby footbridge this time as the 700 vwooped off towards its painful stagger through the wilds of Tulse Hill. Back at the airport station, whoever came up with fast & slow lanes for pedestrians, go here. Unidentified 377 #2 came in, on a route so desperate it calls at Salfords. After Redhill is reached, a proper mung round can be had. Not the most pleasant thing to do on a dull Saturday morning but oh well. Better than hanging round Gatwick getting flattened by suitcases for nearly an hour.

After that, Unidentified 377 #3 appeared, dead on 11:09, bound for Tonbridge. As it pulled out, I see a green GWR 166 just pulling in - good to know that connection isn't doable for future planning. Through the inexplicably-pronounced Leigh & into Tonbridge. Much nicer, complete with a Tourist Info IN A CASTLE - & on a hill. A big hill. Further progress back through town & back to the station.

The 20ish minute wait was entertaining - featuring a single Network Rail...thing that looked nothing like any other train I've seen - I guess it's some sort of track cleaner, plus a 375 that wasn't in service - despite stopping & displaying that it was bound for Ramsgate. Unidentified 375 turned up, in service, in the rather nice blue livery, for the sloooow run to Hastings.

Hastings was chosen for more than just a mung round. This is lunch town, & in the spirit of the forum, their spoons is named after John Logie Baird. I know, I thought he was Scottish too. A rarebit burger was a very useful addition to the day, & it was back to the station for the sea-run to Eastbourne. Oh, nearly forgot - it's Unidentified 377 #4.
Ps: Does anyone have a good way of ensuring that the empty table that you pick when entering doesn't get stolen while ordering? Most times I ask for table x only to finish the order, get to it & find someone's nicked it. This even sometimes results in me having to carry a half of something up stairs - an interesting spectacle for everyone around :p

Eastbourne's a nice town, but this half-hour stop added not much to the haul - only in Britain would the TIC in one of the main seaside resorts close at 1 on a Saturday. I know it's February but still. Onto Unidentified 377 #5 - the Marshlink block seems to have removed all trace of 171s from the line - to take a gamble on a 14 minute stop in Lewes. I've never been into Lewes town by train. Only bus. Remember this.

I get out of Lewes station, 14 minute countdown go, over the bridge, to the foot of the hill.
Stuff that.
Back to the trains immediately, Unidentified 377 #6 being the one to take me to Brighton. It was going well until the London Road viaduct, where we waited ages for a platform. Eventually, a big 7 flashed up, & we went into platform 7. We came to a halt outside the trainshed, which I thought rather strange. Anyway, long walk down the platform, to discover that we were...
Behind a GatEx 387. With another one on platform 8 (!) I believe my exact thoughts were 'how the hell did you get here'.
Ps: if there's anyone who does actually know how those 387s got there, an explanation may be nice :p

Anyway, smoothie bought for the walk home, I expected an unusually leisurely walk to the ever-full 16:33 to Southampton via Worthing (and, inexplicably, Eastleigh). Not so slow, as a GWR 158 (a green one with new-looking seats) parked in the already-remote platform 1 meant that Unidentified 377 #7 was halfway to Hove before starting. I got on it, it got to Worthing, I got home, for my first fully on-schedule, successful trip on Southern for an alarmingly long time.
 
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Nowhere near enough to a Pacer :(
I enjoyed that. Your observations on tourist info's are so true.

700s and why we hate them? Theyr uncumfortable, plastic, nasty things in which the toilet seat is nicer than the real seat. They are good at swallowing crouds otherwise they are horrid, not helped by the lack of USB sockets in standard, a silly omition given how many buses have them.
 

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Unidentified 377 #1...

As the number probably wasn't blanked out then "Unrecorded" would be more appropriate :)

Ps: Does anyone have a good way of ensuring that the empty table that you pick when entering doesn't get stolen while ordering? Most times I ask for table x only to finish the order, get to it & find someone's nicked it. This even sometimes results in me having to carry a half of something up stairs - an interesting spectacle for everyone around :p

Presumably you mean in 'Spoons, then hang your coat/jacket on the back of a chair or if you have pen/paper create a makeshift 'occupied' sign. Otherwise, if your table has been hijacked when you return you should explain to the occupants that you have ordered food and in my experience they will move. If YOU move then your food may never find you or be stone cold when it does.
 

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I enjoyed reading that. As far as it goes with Wetherspoons. If people have sat down at your table while you were ordering it's probably best to pull up another chair and try to join in with their conversation or try steering the conversation onto the merits of class 700 seating in an enthusiastic way.
 

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Of course there is the other way - yesterday I did another trip (although I won't report it because there were no trains involved) & that featured having lunch in the wonderfully glamourous surroundings of Guildford bus station :p
As for the 700s, I guess I've become conditioned to ironing boards because of the 387s & some 377s. Anything vaguely comfortable is a bonus :p. 375s & the other Desiros on SWT are far superior to all of them. Also helps I guess that as it was Saturday & people down here have realised that going to London on Thameslink is insane at the moment, it was practically empty. I can imagine they're rather less good when crush-loaded or the doors are broke again. But I stand by my comment on the screens :)
Ps: I'm kinda dreading the new 158 seats. Old 158 seats are the best.
 

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An enjoyable read - I particularly liked the use of the word "mung" :)
 

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I enjoyed that. Your observations on tourist info's are so true.

700s and why we hate them? Theyr uncumfortable, plastic, nasty things in which the toilet seat is nicer than the real seat. They are good at swallowing crouds otherwise they are horrid, not helped by the lack of USB sockets in standard, a silly omition given how many buses have them.
im surprised by the lack of wifi especially with the terrible phone reception from west hampstead right through to blackfriars no wifi on a new unit is bery puzzling
 

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Umm...I am very confused by the London Midland timetable. The table says that if you get the 10:46 from Euston & change at Rugby, the connecting train is shown at Coventry at 12:11. But, if you ask for the journey on NRE, it shows the connection, onto the same train, with arrival at 11:58. This can't be a Virgin, as the fare is the lowest £14.85 which I assume is LM only, so what's going on?

PS: Talking about the 10:46, which platform does it leave from at Euston? Does it leave from that group of platforms with the shortcut from the tube?
 

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Umm...I am very confused by the London Midland timetable. The table says that if you get the 10:46 from Euston & change at Rugby, the connecting train is shown at Coventry at 12:11. But, if you ask for the journey on NRE, it shows the connection, onto the same train, with arrival at 11:58. This can't be a Virgin, as the fare is the lowest £14.85 which I assume is LM only, so what's going on?

PS: Talking about the 10:46, which platform does it leave from at Euston? Does it leave from that group of platforms with the shortcut from the tube?
It's the same train. Arrives Coventry 1158 and booked to allow a 1202 VT pass before continuing to Birmingham at 1211.

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I suspected it would be something like that, but if it's holed up at the station for that long, there really should be arrival & departure times in the table - 13 minutes is a long time. But then that timetable is pretty odd all round, what with having 3 trains an hour southbound from Brum to London & only 2 northbound :p
 

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Emergency Plan 2: 11/3/17
2 dry Saturdays in a row?! In England?! Well this calls for a trip to celebrate - especially as the line through Worthing isn't being dug up this week.

As you may have gathered, I was intending to send myself to Coventry this time, however getting out later than planned & a queue at Worthing station meant that I wasn't going to get the 09:11 to London too easily. This was an incredibly lucky escape, as I was soon to find out. Emergency Plan 2 activated - Oxford, via Havant. The most useful limited service in the country (well, to me anyway) turned up, with the distinctly non-green Unrecorded 158 stumbling out of the fog at 09:22.

The standard slow run across West Sussex, minus the view of Arundel Castle, brought the train to Havant on time. Look at the board...10:04...delayed. Oh dear. Luckily, it was only delayed by 5 minutes, & Unrecorded 450 (well, 2, actually) went off towards Guildford. The Petersfield call was normal, but soon after, we started going very slowly, eventually stopping in a platform at...Liss. Crawling out of Liss eventually, it was obvious a problem had happened when a clutch of the orange army were spotted doing unspeakable things to a electric-looking box by the track. Apparently a level crossing had become, well, cross, & meant we had to crawl through the area.

The rest of the ride was ok, & the connection at Guildford was nowhere near as tight as feared. Even 10 down, there was still 13 minutes to the Reading leg. During that time, I discovered that the dumping of Coventry was very lucky. An announcement came through addressed to all on platform 4 for the Redhill train there, advising Brighton-bound passengers to dump that train & go via Havant instead due to 'emergency services dealing with an incident' between Clapham & Croydon. Naturally, this would've caused much chaos so the advice was certainly sensible. I don't know when the incident occurred, but I wondered whether the 09:11 itself might've been the train involved. As ever, the thoughts must go to the people concerned. It's never easy :(

Back to the trip I was actually doing, now so mightily glad I was doing it that I think I let most of platform 8 know that 'Wow, that was a lucky escape'. Hoping for a green one, as it seems most of them are, I was a little disappointed to see a boring blue FGW Unrecorded 166 #1pull in. This was the slow train down the North Downs line - at least on this part of the trip. Why are there so many places where the driver has to whistle on this line? Whatever, after passing the amusingly-named Winnersh Triangle, & struggling to spot the distinctive outline of what I call the Jedward building (anyone who's seen it will know where I mean) through the fog, we pulled into one of the great British stations - Reading, in those bottom bays which feel slightly detached. At least that's where I expected to go, it's where they normally go, but this 166 had other ideas, curving away under the mainline to come into platform 13 (!).

Battling through the rugby crowds to find the time of the next train to Oxford - 19 minutes away, that awkward time that'a not quite long enough to go into town. Unfortunately, it was a Voyager. Unrecorded 220 was as you'd expect a Voyager to be, namely rammed to the gills with that bizarre smell to boot. How anyone thought these were suitable for Britain's longest journeys baffles me. Passing through Didcot, which seems to lose more cooling towers every time I pass it, we get to Oxford. To discover that platform 3 has become 4, & the place has GWR signs! Only on platform 3...I mean 4, yes it's GWR on one side of the tracks & FGW on the other, but still. A Chiltern thing was spotted from the bridge too, heading to the new line.

Crossing the unfortunately-named river for the traditional mung round the city - featuring the usual sights such as Blackwells & the Radcliffe Camera, & some not-so-usual sights, such as the back of the bus station, where it's surprisingly easy to get lost. Anyway, it culminated in lunch, minus Spoons-related trouble, because I found a pie stall on the Covered Market. Called Pieminister. How can anyone turn that down? The return to the station, regular bag in one hand, pie & mash bag in the other, was rather fraught - I'm sure it was less far on the way in. I made it though, even purchasing a hot chocolate with 1 minute to spare :o

Unrecorded 166 #2 provided a challenge of its own, namely actually eating said pie. At least they do have tables (tiny ones) though - thank goodness it wasn't a 700 :p. I won the battle though, & with my fingers smelling of steak & Stilton*, the train came back into Reading, the Jedward building now visible, but sadly the GWR Satsumas (I know that's not what they'll be calling them but oh well) weren't, although I may have been too late in noticing when the Networker rumbled across the flyover. Carrying a full cup of a hot drink meant that what would've been an easy 9-minute connection was actually quite tight, but I made it onto Unrecorded 166 #3 for the journey the whole way to Gatwick.

After spending the journey drinking the chocolate, wondering whether the BML would still be in anarchy, wondering why you can get to Gatwick from Reading but not to Heathrow, & being lulled to sleep by the Networker drone, I was woken by the arrival at Redhill, where I swapped seats (I really don't like facing backwards) & then it was into the airport slightly late. The station confirmed that it is a sentient being by sending me up the main escalator this time, just for the lols, to find that the line was relatively well. Crucially, the 16:19 to home was doing well, apart from the fact that the East Coastway half was a) only going to Lewes, b) going there via Brighton, & c) at the wrong end. No such confusion for the West's half, apart from being at the back instead of the front, obvs.

It pulled in, Unrecorded 377 (well, 2 until Haywards Heath, really) to take me home. This was uneventful, aside from a brief panic at Haywards Heath when the on-train information thing failed, & watching the usual spectacle of those who got in the wrong half of the train legging it down the platform. Once divided, the announcement confirmed that this was the Littlehampton train (phew), & after a call at Preston Park (why?) we rumbled over the Adur, past the hospital chimney & Morrisons car park to pull into Worthing a minute early. A most successful day, that could've gone very wrong if it'd actually gone to plan initially.

*it was lovely by the way. If only it was slightly closer to the trains :p
 

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I've just found this thread, so welcome to the trip reporters club!

Some interesting little adventures there. The whistling on the Guildford to Reading line comes from open foot crossings IIRC. A lucky escape from chaos on the BML mind!
 

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Another good report.


As far as it goes with Wetherspoons. If people have sat down at your table while you were ordering it's probably best to pull up another chair and try to join in with their conversation or try steering the conversation onto the merits of class 700 seating in an enthusiastic way.

That's a great tip. I'll try it next time. Thanks!
 

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06/05/17: Home is where the Hertford is
Yoshi is not dead. It just happens that over the last few weeks, engineering work, bad weather, & new green buses turning up in Worthing, has meant that I've been on roads more than rails. Until now.

Without much certainty on where exactly I was going to go (I'd set a few options) I settled on a relatively cheap & easy stagger around Hertfordshire rather than anything bigger through the capital, to be left for after the Great Timetable Change™. And at least this'd take me through London for the first time in ages.

After an interesting chat at the ticket office where we questioned why splitting at Hove slashes the price, before then being asked if I wanted a day return to Hartford (!), the first required tickets were got. Onto the 9:11, Unrecorded 377 #1, where a seat, yes really, was available. On the right-hand side, but you can't have everything. At Hove, a deafening voice told everyone that this is the stop for Brighton, & that the next stop would be Burgess Hill. This was news to the 377, which had just told us all that Haywards Heath was next. Never listen to a 377 :p

Time for the first Haywards jump of the year*, to find that the Heath had been vaguely civilised since my last visit, with the bridge done & the building site outside revealed as a Waitrose. Attachment completed, & I'm now on an Eastbourne portion that seemed busier than the Worthing one.

Through Gatport Airwick, lots of trains, not many planes, then a frankly alarmingly smooth run to East Croydon, not one slowdown contributing to an on-time arrival at Victoria. Dash to the tube, where I fall on top of about 3 passengers. Remember to take the time to find a pole. Beyond the centre to the rabbit warren of Highbury & onto the underground platforms.

Omg. It's the platform the last 20 years forgot. Network Southeast everywhere, peeling signs, & in the form of Unrecorded 313 #1, a suitably rusting train to match. At least the Southern ones have had some TLC. I bet Moorgate commuters can't wait for their new trains, pretty much anything would improve the stock here. Except Pacers obvs. We got to Finsbury, when...
Disaster.
I didn't have a ticket for the final stretch to Letchworth. My whole plan was set to collapse, unless I could find a guard. Cue much craziness, searching the train, even nearly managing to miss my own train when getting out to search the other unit. At Cuffley, I thought I was stuffed when I look through the coach door...
Guard! On a GTR service! I got into the coach to get the ticket by Hertford, & my plan was saved.
For now.

Stevenage was reached, a Virgin HST blasting through to greet our 313. After a quick walk into town - which would turn out to be unnecessary after the plan fell apart a little later - it was off on Unrecorded 365 to head off to the rather nicer-feeling Letchworth. Sometimes with its Garden City, sometimes not. Coming back rather laden after raiding what must be one of the country's best TICs, I stumbled onto Unrecorded 387 (all GN fleet classes in one day) for a serious gamble on a +0 at Stevenage.

Unsurprisingly, this ambitious plan failed (it's not a very connection-friendly timetable here), so I had to go back over the theatre (yes really) into the greyness of Stevenage town centre, for lunch if nothing else. This took rather longer than hoped, leaving the plan on the brink of collapse yet again. Luckily, I somehow managed to run over the theatre with a minute to spare onto Unrecorded 313 #2 to head back to Hertford. A blast into the edge of town from North (not as far as it looks on the map), & it was back to the station - the plan to go clean through the town & come back from East had run out of time.

The timewarp of Unrecorded 313 #3 took me to the timewarp of Highbury & Islington & onto the Victoria line for a seriously quick run to its namesake station. Just 20 minutes after leaving Great Northern, I was back on Southern, on Unrecorded 377 #2, heading back to Worthing. This wasn't quite as smooth a run - crawling as usual through Selhurst & with what seemed like a very long detachment at the Heath, complete with the usual spectacle of passengers running down the platform to get in the right half of the train. Despite these apparent delays, we ended up at Worthing right on time, for the stagger up the side roads back home.

* That's where I use the time it takes to attach the trains to go from the Worthing train, at the back, to the front of the Eastbourne train, which is usually less busy, & means I don't have to battle through 12 coachloads of passengers to get to the barriers at Victoria. It's a little thing that saves a lot of time.
 

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Certainly a different day out but thoroughly enjoyable by the looks of it. I didn't realise anyone used a TIC these days to be honest, I've not stepped into one for years.
 

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Another good report.

That's a great tip. I'll try it next time. Thanks!

The Weatherspoon order app is really good, you don't have to leave table to order, no-one claims table while you're at the bar and they bring food/drink to you. also handy if you've forgotten wallet as you can use PayPal.

the only thing I had problem with is they don't ask how you want steak cooked/theres no way of inputting at order, well not that I've seen. however, a quick word with the bloke that brought over my cider and I minutes later I had a mixed grill with well done steak in front me.
 

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The Weatherspoon order app is really good, you don't have to leave table to order, no-one claims table while you're at the bar and they bring food/drink to you. also handy if you've forgotten wallet as you can use PayPal.

the only thing I had problem with is they don't ask how you want steak cooked/theres no way of inputting at order, well not that I've seen. however, a quick word with the bloke that brought over my cider and I minutes later I had a mixed grill with well done steak in front me.

You can't order any guest ales via the app either. Only fizzy keg and some national blands such as Doom Bar, Abbot and Ruddles.
 
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