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Great stuff as usual, it sure takes me back.
Interesting to see you had 45104, one of just seven ETH Peaks that I never had.
Nice to see 25080 getting a mention and featuring in a photo :)

Thank you 55013. We didn't actually take 104 in the end (which I regret now of course), we hung around New Street and took 145 instead. I'd be interested to know how many Peaks were out that Saturday.
 
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I have vague recollections of some what you're talking about! I love it! I was just a little too young to be able to venture to far without my dad back in the 80s! Love the photos you've posted!
 

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More excellent reading and some very interesting pictures from you there Mr C, they really did go to town on that Basingstoke show didn't they. Just looking at that last shot of the ten, is it an illusion or has the second from the front 33 in a line of 4 got a badly damaged cab?
 

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Thanks guys. Much appreciated.
Mr Bridge you are absolutely right. Here's a zoomed in version. I wonder which one it is though? Might do a bit of digging later...
 

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Great stuff.
I remember the D200 tour well - The "Desert Songster".
I did it with my brother who has no interest in trains.
He took along a carrier bag full of car magazines to read whilst I was flapping.
It started at Preston and we boarded at Manchester Victoria, the 40 then worked round to Stockport and from there up the WCML to Mitre Bridge Junction before heading to Kensington Olympia where it came off, running light to Waterloo via a reversal at Clapham Junction.
The tour, meanwhile, had 73117 and 73119 from Olympia to Waterloo via Hounslow.
After that 40122 worked through to Exeter where I believe we had a break whilst she had a much needed drink.
Then it was up to Reading, a run round, then via Oxford to the Midlands and back to its destination.
What a tour!

I was also on the "Valiant Thunderer", as was 45135 of this parish.
Another great tour.
There were four of us in our party and we started from Manchester Piccadilly, with 47805 working to Bristol where the 50s took over.
50008 was leading to Paignton and it was when they ran round in the yard that the speedo problem on 50015 was discovered.
The locos then swapped round so that 50008 could lead to Newton Abbot, where a run round with 50015 leading was obviously permitted.

When 37142 was added it was well off the platform so this was the best shot I could manage:
50015_1991.11.23_6_Plymouth_& 37142 by Phil Wood, on Flickr

The three locos came off at Par and 50033 took us to Newquay before 8 and 15 worked to Plymouth (with Thunderer now leading, of course).
A convoluted shunt then saw 50033 put inside the others for triple fifty haulage to Temple Meads.
50008 and 50015 were due to be withdrawn then and emotions were running high at Bristol, someone started to sing "Swing low sweet chariot", a few people joined in but it soon fizzled out :)
After that it was the anti-climax of 47819 back to Piccadilly.
For the record, I was 24.

Moving on, I love the shot of 50032.
It was a bit cleaner when I photted it at Reading fifteen months earlier:
50032_1989.04.14_Reading by Phil Wood, on Flickr

Happy days, thanks for bringing up some great memories.

I must have been stood right by you when 37142 was attached. What a tour.
 

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Last one of this lot then is the Basingstoke rail day 27th September 1987, as mentioned a few posts ago by AJM580. This was quite a line up it has to be said.
Many classes were represented, some preserved, some still active and some recently withdrawn.
These were the ones that I definitely remember:
20s - 20030 and 20064 (the green pair)
24 - 97201
25 - 25244 (now rotting away at the KESR I think)
27 - 27059
31 - 31268 in red stripe Railfreight
33 - 33008 on display and 33027 parked with an Intercity class 73 on the other side of the mainline (33s were also working the Waterloo to Salisbury trains)
35 - D7018
37 - 37116 in non standard Stratford version of large logo livery and running shuttles to Andover and back with D200 I think.
40s - 40013 on display and 40122 running past on shuttles
44 - 44004
45 - 45060
46 - 97403
47 - 47581 original NSE (plus others passing through on Poole trains)
50s - none on display but plenty passing by on Exeter trains
55 - 55022
56 - A Railfreight liveried one, can't remember which though?
58 - 58005
Was there a 59 too? I'm not sure
77 - 27002 'Electra' recently returned from The Netherlands
86401 in NSE.
Also 2 BIL 2090 and 4 SUB 4732 were operating Woking to Basingstoke shuttles.

I went up in the car with my dad while my stepbrother Tom had somehow wangled a flight in a Cessna from Eastleigh airport courtesy of a friend of his dads (jammy git :lol:).
Dad and I wondered around looking at the exhibits for a while not realising that Tom had flown right over the top of us (and also over Eastleigh depot and the Mid Hants).
In the evening there was a mini railtour behind D200 that we had tickets for and this went via Southampton, Romsey and the curve at Laverstock Junction, then back onto the LSWR mainline for a blast back to Basingstoke.
It was a great day out and here's some photos:

1 to 6 are the various exhibits on display with 45060 (D100) running alongside them.
7 - Biggles buzzing 34105 Swanage near Ropley on the Mid Hants.
8 and 9 - Overhead shots of Basingstoke rail day taken by Tom
10 - Eastleigh depot from above also taken by Tom, plenty of 33s and Thumper units on shed and also 25181 which became a fixture after failing on a railtour at least a year before at Andover and being eventually dumped at Eastleigh never to work again.
Once again and I know he'll read this at some point. Thanks Tom, I suppose I'd better give you your photos back now :).

Love the photos fro Basingstoke, couldn't make it myself but remember seeing it in Rail.
 

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Some great phots there - the missing locos in the lineup were 55019 (parked next to 25244) 56085, 59003. 73118 was your Intercity 73 and on the Saturday I noted the following locos passing

47479 - 0940 Poole - Bradford
50004 - 0817 Exeter - Waterloo & 1510 Waterloo - Exeter
73136 - 1000 Bournemouth - Waterloo & 1432 Waterloo - Weymouth
40122 - The Hampshire Whistler (trains #2 and #4)
33111 - Waterloo - Brockenhurst VSOE special
73131 - 1044 Waterloo - Bournemouth
47466 - 0650 Leeds - Poole
50047 - 1110 Waterloo - Exeter
37116 - The Hampshire Whistler (trains #1 & #3)
47427 - 0955 Weymouth - Newcastle
33013 - 0936 Exeter - Waterloo
50013 - 1310 Waterloo - Exeter
47629 - 0803 Newcastle - Weymouth
50007 - 1218 Exeter - Waterloo
33115 - 1410 Waterloo - Salisbury
 
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There were also plenty of REP/TC sets about as well, how things change!!!
 
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Some great phots there - the missing locos in the lineup were 56085, 59003. 73118 was your Intercity 73 and on the Saturday I noted the following locos passing

47479 - 0940 Poole - Bradford
50004 - 0817 Exeter - Waterloo & 1510 Waterloo - Exeter
73136 - 1000 Bournemouth - Waterloo & 1432 Waterloo - Weymouth
40122 - The Hampshire Whistler (trains #2 and #4)
33111 - Waterloo - Brockenhurst VSOE special
73131 - 1044 Waterloo - Bournemouth
47466 - 0650 Leeds - Poole
50047 - 1110 Waterloo - Exeter
37116 - The Hampshire Whistler (trains #1 & #3)
47427 - 0955 Weymouth - Newcastle
33013 - 0936 Exeter - Waterloo
50013 - 1310 Waterloo - Exeter
47629 - 0803 Newcastle - Weymouth
50007 - 1218 Exeter - Waterloo
33115 - 1410 Waterloo - Salisbury

Ah. You're the man for filling those gaps in :). Excellent. I've got a photo of 59003 here too and I thought it was at Basingstoke but I wasn't totally sure.
Considering it was third rail country there was quite a variety of locos on different passenger trains looking at your notes.

I think the wrecked 33 at Eastleigh was 33003, written off a month before near East Grinstead on an engineering train. Here's a photo (not mine, it's from the Derby Sulzers site). It looks looks like the one though.
 

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I think the wrecked 33 at Eastleigh was 33003, written off a month before near East Grinstead on an engineering train. Here's a photo (not mine, it's from the Derby Sulzers site). It looks looks like the one though.

I had just seen that one too, seems like it could be a possible candidate doesn't it?
 

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I had just seen that one too, seems like it could be a possible candidate doesn't it?

It looks like it from the side and it's positioning in the yard. That's some damage though isn't it?
 

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Ah. You're the man for filling those gaps in :). Excellent. I've got a photo of 59003 here too and I thought it was at Basingstoke but I wasn't totally sure.
Considering it was third rail country there was quite a variety of locos on different passenger trains looking at your notes.
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Thanks, I'm glad now that I kept detailed records like that. It all stemmed from a book I bought by Benjamin Brooksbank round about 1982. It detailed several trips he took where he logged all the stuff he saw, with details of train workings. It fired my imagination and I started to do the same. Now nearly 35 years later I've got some 30 files and books stuffed with notes. I always liked the old SW division as there was always a good variety of diesels in amongst the more usual 3rd rail electrics (REPs, VEPs etc).
 

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It looks like it from the side and it's positioning in the yard. That's some damage though isn't it?

Certainly is! Although I seem to recall a really bad one around that time involving a head collision between a 33 and a 47 can't find any pictures but I do remember seeing a photo in the Railway Magazine showing the 47 having lifted up one end of the 33 and half demolishing it in the impact, the type 4s cab was also badly flattened, think it could have been 33032 & 47202 involved.
 

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Certainly is! Although I seem to recall a really bad one around that time involving a head collision between a 33 and a 47 can't find any pictures but I do remember seeing a photo in the Railway Magazine showing the 47 having lifted up one end of the 33 and half demolishing it in the impact, the type 4s cab was also badly flattened, think it could have been 33032 & 47202 involved.

You're right. I seem to remember 47202 being dumped at Bath Road around then with it's numbers painted out. It was in original Railfreight colours and I think that happened somewhere near Frome.
 

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You're right. I seem to remember 47202 being dumped at Bath Road around then with it's numbers painted out. It was in original Railfreight colours and I think that happened somewhere near Frome.

This one?

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsummary.php?docID=1185

"Shortly after a Yeovil to Cardiff passenger train departed from Frome Station it was struck head-on by a freight train. Fourteen of the 50 passengers on the train were taken to hospital but none of them was seriously injured. The driver of the freight train was seriously injured and it was three hours after the accident before he was released from the wrecked locomotive cab."
 

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Great bit of detective work by Gus there. I don't know where 33032 ended up in the end? I'm pretty sure the one at Eastleigh was 33003 though.
It's difficult to comprehend in this day and age how many bumps and scrapes used to happen back then. Things broke down quite often and there were a few occasions when rescuing locomotives hit the trains they were supposed to be rescuing. Also there was no TPWS and some of the signalling equipment wasn't perfect. Different times eh?
 

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Great bit of detective work by Gus there. I don't know where 33032 ended up in the end? I'm pretty sure the one at Eastleigh was 33003 though.
It's difficult to comprehend in this day and age how many bumps and scrapes used to happen back then. Things broke down quite often and there were a few occasions when rescuing locomotives hit the trains they were supposed to be rescuing. Also there was no TPWS and some of the signalling equipment wasn't perfect. Different times eh?

In some ways it doesn't seem so long ago (to some of us at least :oops:) but yes, a rather different world back then and obviously not just on the railway.
 

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Severn Valley Diesel Gala 19th and 20th May 2017

Yep another SVR gala report. :)

Friday

Dropped our youngest off at school in the morning and then hot footed it up the M5 to drop the van off at the campsite by the railway at Hampton Loade. I think by the time we got there, sorted the van, the dog and walked to the station to get tickets it was well into the afternoon.
This however didn't worry me as I'd decided that I just wanted a few runs on some favourite traction this weekend rather than a weekend running from one train to another. Mrs C purchased two two-day rovers and we had a little look at the timetable to see what was happening.
We took 60100 first (an entirely new class for me having never been behind one). Sitting in mk2 aircons seemed quite odd. We hopped off at Arley for the Western back up to Bridgenorth - it looked (now in BR blue) and sounded superb and even though we were quite a way back the run up Eardington bank was really exhilarating.
At this point the normal done thing is to leg it over the bridge to try and get near the front for the next departure. Not for me though, we bought a few drinks and headed back onto the stock we'd been on for the next departure which was 50007. Perfect, right near the front, our own table for two in comfortable ex 1st class seats and a very good run all the way to Kidderminster was had (Foley Park Tunnel was a noisy and fumey experience :D, like going up the bank from St David's with the whole front coach vibrating).
We pottered about Kidderminster for a bit and again managed to get seats near the front for another excellent run behind 31271 back to Hampton Loade where the heavens had just dumped a skies worth of hail on the station and surrounding hills. There was thunder too and we decided to go down and check Doggy McDogface was ok. He wasn't too happy as he's not into the whole thunder thing, we ended up staying put at the van and watching the trains go by rather than go out again.
The guys in the pub had let us park right down by the river on our own so a pleasant evening was had getting slowly sozzled.

Saturday

I must admit we didn't get up too early, but after we'd eaten, walked the dog etc we headed up to the station for 33035 down to Highley and a quick look around the Engine House as I wanted to show Mrs C the royal train carriage which I knew she'd be interested in.
After a quick look around we took 47192 up to Bridgenorth to get in place for the 20s. A couple of beers were had while we sat in the front coach and once the other service had arrived we headed off to Kidderminster enjoying the noise. They sounded great too and three windows up from me and in the front vestibule (I only realised this this morning) was a certain Mr Dhassell filming the whole run :lol:.
At Kidderminster we did a quick out and back to Bewdley behind D9551 and 33108 (a strange but fun combination) for 47192 again back (I thought 192 looked great with full yellow ends and shabby green paintwork).
Mrs C had booked us in for a curry in a place on George Street just down and right from the station so we headed there and ate a fantastic meal, she'd told them that it was my birthday the next day so when we got there they'd put a 'Happy Birthday' sign up and they also gave me a free cocktail and a bit of ice cream birthday cake which was rather nice.

After a meander back to the station (so full and a little half cut), we got seats in the front coach behind one of my all time favourite locomotives (D)1062. I love it so much I've even got a valve and cam follower from it on my shelf downstairs...
The run back to Hampton Loade in the dark was probably my favourite of the weekend (this may have had something to do with the alcohol), it was sounding awesome and all too soon we were at Hampton Loade. I complimented the driver on the run and he showed his appreciation by absolutely storming out of the station in a way that only a Western can.

Sunday

Not really a train day although we did head up to Eardington to get a shot of the fine looking 47828 passing through. Very nice.
After being inspired by one of 55013s reports I decided that for my actual birthday I'd like to visit Ironbridge. We packed up the van and headed over before having a very pleasant time looking around this very interesting town. We had Sunday lunch sitting outside a pub at the end of the bridge and watched the world go by whilst feeding the odd bit of turkey to the black and white hairy guy under the table.
So that was that, a very relaxing weekend.


A little bit of nostalgia

For those that like nostalgia it's just over 25 years since I did my first ever diesel gala at the Severn Valley, so I've dug out my old book and this what I did on the 19th October 1991.
I've put down the TOPS numbers instead of the D numbers even though most locos were carrying their original numbers.

Kidderminster - Bewdley: a unit, maybe a 108?
Bewdley - Hampton Loade: 25173 (0845 Bewdley to Bridgenorth - we were there early)
47192 (yep, that one) Hampton Loade - Kidderminster, 25283 piloted from Highley and they uncoupled it by Victoria Bridge, ran it on it's own over the bridge before we followed it over and recoupled on the other side!
47192 Kidderminster to Hampton Loade (the 25 was coupled to the back)
D1062 then from Hampton Loade to Arley (1st run on a Western)
D821 Arley to Bridgenorth (1115 Kidderminster to Bridgenorth - 1st ever Warship)
55016 Bridgenorth to Arley
D1062 Arley to Hampton Loade
55022 Hampton Loade to Bewdley
55019 Bewdley to Hampton Loade (1425 Kidderminster - Bridgenorth)
45108 Hampton Loade to Kidderminster
45108 Kidderminster to Hampton Loade (piloted by 25283 from Highley)
55016 Hampton Loade to Kidderminster (1730 Bridgenorth - Kidderminster)
25173 Kidderminster to Bridgenorth
D821 Bridgenorth to Kidderminster (2020 Bridgenorth to Kidderminster)

And that is what you call getting your money's worth ;)
We must have been knackered driving home. I feel a bit guilty about not doing enough trains this weekend now.

Some photos including:
31271 in Switzerland
14, 33 and Pussy
1062 nice!
50007 almost as nice!
Dog, van, 50031 in the background, not a bad view from the bedroom.
31271 in the olden days (labour was cheap then).
Ironbridge. It's a very ironey bridge.
47828 Eardington (taken by the missus).
60100 Hampton Loade (very red).
Deltic 55022 Hampton Loade again.
 

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Sounds like a great time! You didn't do too many trains but it sounds like a relaxing time anyway, and I'm glad to see that you went for 47192 as well.
 

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Sounds like a great time! You didn't do too many trains but it sounds like a relaxing time anyway, and I'm glad to see that you went for 47192 as well.

Thanks fq. Yes it was nice to get 47192 again and it sounded good as did 828 from what I heard of it.
 

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You certainly had a good birthday weekend! A shame we didn't get to meet in the end, but these things happen.

I was lucky to miss the hail by the looks of things, although I nearly got drenched for the second time in two days after I left the pub for my bus home on Friday!

Beer and trains, an excellent combination!
 

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A great read. Didn't realise you were onboard either, those 20's sounded great from my position, Especially through Bewdley Tunnel!! :lol::p Will be posting my report later this evening!
 
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Tech - yes, we'll hopefully catch up in July and yes there's not many better combinations than beer and noisy engines. :D
Dhass - I was looking through YouTube as it's always a bit of a chuckle when you see yourself, there's a clip on there of when we left Highley on the 20s and I'm the hairy bloke literally about three windows behind you (like a hairy stalker) ;)
 

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Great to see you had a great birthday weekend and got to do what you wanted to do! Loved the fact 47192 was at your first and latest gala!
 

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Great to see you had a great birthday weekend and got to do what you wanted to do! Loved the fact 47192 was at your first and latest gala!

Thanks Noddy, yes there was a bit of synergy there with 47192, it must have only just been preserved the first time I had it (1st 47 preserved), mind you it looked like it hadn't been painted too often since...
You wouldn't really get that with a preserved steam loco of course unless it had been artificially weathered.
 

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The SVR sounded a great weekend! Hope you had a great birthday, sounds like you did.
 

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The SVR sounded a great weekend! Hope you had a great birthday, sounds like you did.

Thanks mate I did. This year was refreshingly absent of arm waving morons too which was nice.
It seemed like a pretty calm weekend.
 
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