Based on doing that change but off the Overground be towards the front of the train in trains out of central London/rear of the train for trains into London and use the nearest stairs to you. It is indeed via the subway.
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I was talking about arriving at Stratford on a Greater Anglia train (not Overground) and changing to Jubilee. Presumably I need to be right at the front of the GA train to get into that subway.
pokemonsuper9
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Based on the map at https://images.nationalrail.co.uk/e...39e90ad830/Stratford__London__station_map.JPG
you would want to be very close to the front, looking at Satellite view, I think you'd want to be in the second carriage from the front if arriving in Platform 9
I know that you were but l believe that the tracks are pretty much parallel. Hence at the front going to London and the rear going from London.
pokemonsuper9
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In theory you could walk along platform 3/5 (the other islands would work too but that one has both staircases facing each other) but that would still add two staircases.
Rather than memorising directions, I just generally follow the signs for the sub-surface lines which will take you to by the quickest route whether you're arriving at or departing from King's X.
There's an unsignposted shortcut to the Central line at Tottenham Court Road that involves turning right when you're directed to go straight on at the bottom of the escalators. I think it's still there after the Crossrail station rebuild.
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If travelling from (say) Bradford or Saltaire to Carlisle or Lancaster (or reverse) then changing at Bingley or Keighley rather than Skipton ensures a same platform change.
No, I meant the internal footbridge towards the East end of the platforms, but your South side exit is worth the mention anyway.
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Yes, if you turn right and go where it says "no entry", you go down a short flight of stairs and you're on the eastbound platform. For the westbound, there's an archway connecting the two platforms just a few yards along the eastbound platform. Those same escalators are the quickest route to the Northern too, even though they're signposted just as the Central - turn sharp left at the bottom of the main escalators and there's another short escalator which feeds down to the north end of the two Northern Line platforms.
There are myriad "tricks" like that for interchanging between Underground lines. Such as a shortcut from the northbound Bakerloo at Piccadilly Circus to reach the Piccadilly Line.
It is theoretically possible, particularly if both are running late, for the stopper to be held in the throat. awaiting a platform while the fast is let straight in. If the stopper were then to be sent over to 1 with the fast in 12, then slower walkers might have a problem. Requires several unlikely situations all to stack up….
Another trick I thought of, not strictly a station trick, is that it is possible to order food from Starbucks, McDonald's and maybe others (anyone know any?) via an app on your phone for collection in the station. So for example, if the train will be arriving in about five minutes, put an order in on the app, the order will be prepared, and collect your food immediately on the way though the station! Great stuff!
I remember back in the ‘90s reading about some geezer who was on a heavily delayed GNER service heading south, and phoned an order in to an Indian restaurant in Peterborough, who then duly dispatched his ruby and met him on the platform as the train arrived.
As an aside, my father in law’s favourite trick is to order a chinese for delivery from the shop opposite the pub he drinks in, and then ducks out and catches a lift home with his food. Bit cheeky!
So I managed to navigate myself, just missed the 1046 from platform 12 so then down and up stairs to platform 11 for the 1100...
I ended up at Angel underground at the end of my walk. Set myself a little exercise as to what was the quickest way back to Waterloo, Waterloo & City from Bank or Jubilee from London Bridge (or even via Kennington). Went via London Bridge and found the interchange Northern to Jubilee there just as long as the long trek to W&C at Bank.
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I've used that trick a few times during tight turnarounds at Waterloo. Train in, pick up a pre-ordered drink and perhaps a bite to eat, and back out again all within about 10 minutes. Also saves queuing if you're due a PNB too.
One trick I pull fairly often when Stratford is rammed and the queues off the jubilee line platforms to the underpass is being held / moving slowly is to head up the escalator to the westbound central line platform, walk through the train when it arrives (the doors open both sides there), then use the eastern subway that’s always quiet to get an eastbound central line train back to South Woodford.
That's brilliant! Will have to try that...!
But how does he know when his food will be ready to go, and how does he negotiate the "taxi" service???!?!
Very good, what were your favourite places to order from?
I think this is standard practice in Japan?
lxfe_mxtterz
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I'm rather partial to the udon place upstairs at Waterloo. Makes for a nice filling dinner if on a late shift.
Marugame Udon
AlbertBeale
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Most Jubilee interchanges east of Baker Street are pretty long, since the line didn't get woven alongside existing platforms in the way the Victoria did in many places.
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The southbound Thameslink platform at St. Pancras has a (general use) accessible toilet. It's only one cubicle with all facilities, but it seems to be little known and lightly used and can be a lot more convenient and pleasant than the main toilets upstairs, which often have long queues particularly for the Ladies. I assume there's one on the northbound platform too but I haven't had occasion to try to find it.
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Any tip's on how to avoid the steps at the Cooper's Row entrance to Fenchurch Street?
ChrisC
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I often used to do that and indeed the journey planners regularly gave a change at Chesterfield for journeys from Nottingham to the north. Unfortunately XC have decided to cut the number of trains calling at Chesterfield resulting in this not working so easily these days.
Kite159
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Don't think there is a way to avoiding those steps other than using the main entrance to the station, which isn't the best located for the LU.
Or for Corbridge from Newcastle or other intermediate stations there is this option, possibly unique in the country to take it a stage further.
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And it gets worse. Currently 10 XC services each way still stop there on weekdays, there are a couple of two hour gaps in the middle of the day. When the new timetable comes into effect from 2nd June, that reduces to 7 each way, with two four hour gaps in the middle of the day.
Like you I often used to find it convenient to change there (to/from Nottingham in my case) before they started cutting the stops.
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The Tottenham Court Road shortcut is still there.
I like the London Underground for Android app.
Its free, but with unobtrusive adverts. On the tube map if you hover over a station a popup menu appears. Pick "Info" from this and it has an ASCII art view which shows where the exits are on the platform. It means that you can be close to the right exit when your train arrives. It can save a minute or two, which can help with tight connections.
Its free, but with unobtrusive adverts. On the tube map if you hover over a station a popup menu appears. Pick "Info" from this and it has an ASCII art view which shows where the exits are on the platform. It means that you can be close to the right exit when your train arrives. It can save a minute or two, which can help with tight connections.
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If you want to change between platforms 1 and 2 at Blackfriars, position yourself at the southern end of the train and switch between the platforms at the south bank end of the station, which (compared to the north end) saves you some walking distance and quite a few stairs and doesn't require going out & in the ticket barriers.