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    Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

    They are in the official timetable for the day, e.g. see this example on RTT https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Q16541/2024-03-14/detailed#allox_id=0 which shows the train category as "Ordinary Passenger".
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    Historic number of passenger trains in the timetable

    These days on a typical weekday there are about 22,000 passenger trains in the timetable (24,000 odd pre-Covid). Does anyone know roughly what the equivalent figure would have been at the pre-Breching peak?
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    What Took Air Conditioning So Long?

    Try travelling on a packed 455 out of Waterloo on a scorching 30 degree day in July and then tell me it isn’t necessary. The conditions are borderline dangerous.
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    Trivia: Non-consecutive stations on the same line named after the same place

    Llandudno and Llandudno Junction lie on the same line but are separated by an intermediate station for a different place (Deganwy). What other examples of this are there on the network? Any journey requiring changes/connections does not count
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    Crossrail - Construction updates and progress towards opening (now expected 24 May 2022)

    Umm, except it isn’t. The original 1960s signalling needed to be ripped out and replaced with modern signalling when the 2009 tube stock were introduced. The old signalling couldn’t support 32tph 1647713428 A more accurate explanation is that there was basically zero investment in the tube...
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    Branding and marketing blunders or failures on the railway.

    Shortly before the 1st lockdown in March 2020, Avanti were running this marketing campaign…
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    Trivia: Stations/Lines that receive a better service during times of disruption

    The Chessington branch has a 2tph service throughout the week. But when the line to Epsom is closed the trains are diverted to Chessington and it gets a 4tph service!
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    Is the class 455 really life expired?

    The point is that eventually the cost of keeping old stock running approaches the cost of just replacing them with something newer. In the specific case of the 455s, they lack air conditioning, toilets and wide enough doors to obtain satisfactory dwell times (at least in the pre-pandemic...
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    Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

    Plus more modern, higher capacity, air conditioning, better acceleration, semi-ATO between Wimbledon and Waterloo
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    Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

    preusmably the emergency funding arrangements
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    Under/Over-Served areas in the network.

    At current levels of usage, you could argue London is over-serves...
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    Grand Central cancels plans to run London - Blackpool service

    It’s amazing the pie-in-the-sky world some of the contributors on here live in. Of course this service was going to be abandoned. The already marginal business case became a financial basket case the moment the lockdown hit. It’s a real shame of course but the only real surprise is that...
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    Trivia: Stations with platforms that have never been used

    Heathrow T5 has two platforms future proofed for a future Southern link
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    Trivia: Stations with platforms that have never been used

    The up platform at Chessington South has never been used, due to the extension of the line being cancelled after WW2. What other examples are there on the network?
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    Plans for the existing Euston station post HS2?

    The concourse isn’t too bad (though nowhere near as good as King X or St Pancras) but the platforms area at Euston is utterly miserable with the atmosphere of a multi-storey car park. Natural light desperately needed.
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    Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

    Has a 701 run under its own power on SWR metals yet?
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    Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

    could it be a way to replace the 442s?
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    Government to extend Emergency Measures Agreements

    pretty good time to have to deal with a bunch of strike action

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