District Line D Stock final withdrawal

Blindtraveler · 14 Jul 2016

Why no further dispatches til August now? Looks like my forthcoming London bash really will be my last experience of them

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Dstock7080 · 20 Jul 2016

The D Stock tour proposed for 7 August will now not be taking place unfortunately.

We still intend to run a final D Stock tour on the District Line to coincide with the last train in passenger service.

MatthewRead · 20 Jul 2016

Dstock7080 said:
The D Stock tour proposed for 7 August will now not be taking place unfortunately.

That's good because I'm not here that day I'm on holiday in Devon

Blindtraveler · 25 Aug 2016

I assume withdrawals have restarted recently?

bluegoblin7 · 25 Aug 2016

Correct. 7024+7097 were stopped last week, and have left LU over the course of this week.

HMS Ark Royal · 27 Aug 2016

I was in London on Thursday and the evening Olympia shuttles were both S stock. Driver of the first one said they were now fully booked as such and that D Stock withdrawal is planned for mid december

Dstock7080 · 28 Aug 2016

HMS Ark Royal said:
I was in London on Thursday and the evening Olympia shuttles were both S stock. Driver of the first one said they were now fully booked as such

T125 was a D Stock on Monday and Friday evening, so worked to Olympia.

There are no Olympia shuttles M-F evenings, two trains make one single trip in the evening.

HMS Ark Royal · 28 Aug 2016

Dstock7080 said:
T125 was a D Stock on Monday and Friday evening, so worked to Olympia.

There are no Olympia shuttles M-F evenings, two trains make one single trip in the evening.

I know it is a single trip, but I prefer the term "shuttle"

Blindtraveler · 28 Aug 2016

HMS Ark Royal said:
D Stock withdrawal is planned for mid december

That long? I assume this is to support units returning North for mods? There will I assume only be 1 or 2 kept going as there was only 16 at start of August and 2 more now gone plus more no doubt planned shortly.

SpacePhoenix · 28 Aug 2016

How many D stock now left in service and what branches are they now confined to?

Dstock7080 · 28 Aug 2016

SpacePhoenix said:
How many D stock now left in service and what branches are they now confined to?

As at today, there are 14 trains that can be found anywhere on the District - except from High Street Kensington to Edgware Road.

After 9 October, Mansion House bay (pfm.2) will be removed - so there is just over a month to ride the regular D Stock working T125 05.33½ Ealing-06.16 Mansion House. From 10 October T125 will be permanently extended to Tower Hill.

swt_passenger · 28 Aug 2016

Dstock7080 said:
As at today, there are 14 trains that can be found anywhere on the District - except from High Street Kensington to Edgware Road.

After 9 October, Mansion House bay (pfm.2) will be removed - so there is just over a month to ride the regular D Stock working T125 05.33½ Ealing-06.16 Mansion House. From 10 October T125 will be permanently extended to Tower Hill.

Is the new Mansion House layout to be a single island, or a pair of side platforms? I seem to remember the final design was undecided, but I'm possibly going back 3 years or so.

Dstock7080 · 29 Aug 2016

swt_passenger said:
Is the new Mansion House layout to be a single island, or a pair of side platforms? I seem to remember the final design was undecided, but I'm possibly going back 3 years or so.

Originally was to be one island but just 1 staircase to serve both EB and WB passengers was thought too restrictive.

So the final layout will retain the current WB and EB platforms, smoothing the layout in and out EB.

Blindtraveler · 29 Aug 2016

Is it intended to make this one step free?

Dstock7080 · 29 Aug 2016

Blindtraveler said:
Is it intended to make this one step free?

It is not on the planned list:
https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/step-free-access

Lifts or ramps will be built to provide step-free access at several other stations during the next ten years:

2016/17: Ealing Broadway, Tottenham Court Road, Vauxhall
2017/18: Bank (Waterloo & City line), Blackhorse Road (London Overground), Bond Street, Bromley-by-Bow
2018/19: Brondesbury, Finsbury Park, Moorgate, Paddington (Bakerloo line), Seven Sisters (London Overground), Victoria, West Hampstead (London Overground), Whitechapel
2019/20: Elephant & Castle (Northern line)
2021/22: Bank (Northern line)
2023/24: Camden Town, Holborn
New stations built as part of the Metropolitan line extension, Northern line extension and the Elizabeth line (currently being built by Crossrail Ltd) will also have step-free access.

Blindtraveler · 29 Aug 2016

Wasnt aware this list existed thanks v much.

Are the withdrawals continuing at 2 per week or now were in the early teens has it now slowed down?
Also are there any further S stock sets still to arrive?

Dstock7080 · 29 Aug 2016

D Stock withdrawals are normally 1-per week, only for a short time in 2015 were they 2-per week. A lull of 6-weeks occurred July-August 2016.

S7 Stock still to deliver to District/H&C:
21319/20 at Bombardier, having extra car removed
21323/24 currently on MET as S7+1 (as cover for S8 ATC/engineering mods)
21381/82 currently awaiting testing of new car
21383/84 still at Bombardier, awaiting insertion of new car
21385/86 still at Bombardier, awaiting insertion of new car
21467/68 Old Dalby ATC test train
21547/48
21565/65
21567/68.
a delivery is due this week.

two S7 trains are also at Derby for ATC/engineering mods.

gottago · 29 Aug 2016

Dstock7080 said:
It is not on the planned list:
https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/step-free-access

As an aside it seems a bit odd that they'll make the Waterloo and City line step free at Bank but have no plans to do the same at Waterloo. They've already got a lift there from platform to ticket hall but not to the surface (which wouldn't be the biggest challenge to rectify).

swt_passenger · 29 Aug 2016

Dstock7080 said:
Originally was to be one island but just 1 staircase to serve both EB and WB passengers was thought too restrictive.

So the final layout will retain the current WB and EB platforms, smoothing the layout in and out EB.

Thanks. The stair capacity was exactly what I'd have assumed to be the issue. Presumably what will become the back of the westbound platform might get a fence along the platform edge?

Dstock7080 · 29 Aug 2016

swt_passenger said:
Presumably what will become the back of the westbound platform might get a fence along the platform edge?

Similar to that recently erected at Putney Bridge, i would also assume so.

swt class 450 · 8 Sep 2016

I was at Westminster this evening (7/9/2016) and i saw two D stock trains in a row in the same direction. The first D stock train came at 22:52 going Westbound and then the second D stock train came at 22:56 going Westbound.

Dstock7080 · 8 Sep 2016

swt class 450 said:
I was at Westminster this evening (7/9/2016) and i saw two D stock trains in a row in the same direction. The first D stock train came at 22:52 going Westbound and then the second D stock train came at 22:56 going Westbound.

T53 7032+7057 to Ealing, followed by T67 7034+7115 to Wimbledon.

swt class 450 · 8 Sep 2016

Dstock7080 said:
T53 7032+7057 to Ealing, followed by T67 7034+7115 to Wimbledon.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I always get confused with recording London Underground unit numbers.

swt_passenger · 18 Sep 2016

In the latest Commisioner's Report, for the 22 Sept board meeting, it states that 'maintenance of D stock at Ealing Common has now finished'.

Presumably this refers to corrective maintenance, rather than normal overnight fitness to run type stuff? In other words as trains fail due to component defects they will not be fixed?

Dstock7080 · 18 Sep 2016

swt_passenger said:
In the latest Commisioner's Report, for the 22 Sept board meeting, it states that 'maintenance of D stock at Ealing Common has now finished'.

Presumably this refers to corrective maintenance, rather than normal overnight fitness to run type stuff? In other words as trains fail due to component defects they will not be fixed?

Oddly, it was 26 May that this internal bulletin was released to staff:

Last Friday, District line train maintenance team saw the last D Stock train in the sheds at Ealing Common depot. The 36 year old trains are retiring from service and being replaced one by one by the brand-new, air conditioned, walk-through S Stock trains and be replaced fully towards the later part of this year.

There are currently 50 D stock units left (25 trains) and at the moment, we are decommissioning these at two units per week.

Maintenance Manager said: It was a bit of a sad day it was the start of the breakup of the team and people are now moving on to do S stock work but all are relishing the challenges ahead. The shed team was a great team to be part of and I wish them all the best l in the future.

bb21 · 18 Sep 2016

Dstock7080 said:
D Stock withdrawals are normally 1-per week, only for a short time in 2015 were they 2-per week. A lull of 6-weeks occurred July-August 2016.

S7 Stock still to deliver to District/H&C:
21319/20 at Bombardier, having extra car removed
21323/24 currently on MET as S7+1 (as cover for S8 ATC/engineering mods)
21381/82 currently awaiting testing of new car
21383/84 still at Bombardier, awaiting insertion of new car
21385/86 still at Bombardier, awaiting insertion of new car
21467/68 Old Dalby ATC test train
21547/48
21565/65
21567/68.
a delivery is due this week.

two S7 trains are also at Derby for ATC/engineering mods.

Without looking back at all posts, has 21327/8 had 25386 removed? Back in service as S7?

Dstock7080 · 18 Sep 2016

bb21 said:
Without looking back at all posts, has 21327/8 had 25386 removed? Back in service as S7?

No, 21327/28 is staying on the Metropolitan Line as an S7+1, (with two de-icer M2 cars!).
This is the extra train required for the MLX Metropolitan Line eXtension. Extra S7 train 192 21567/68 was recently delivered to replace it.

bb21 · 18 Sep 2016

Dstock7080 said:
No, 21327/28 is staying on the Metropolitan Line as an S7+1, (with two de-icer M2 cars!).
This is the extra train required for the MLX Metropolitan Line eXtension. Extra S7 train 192 21567/68 was recently delivered to replace it.

Excuse my ignorance so what happens to 21385/6? Are they going to have an additional M2 car manufactured?

Dstock7080 · 19 Sep 2016

bb21 said:
Excuse my ignorance so what happens to 21385/6? Are they going to have an additional M2 car manufactured?

Yes, my list you quoted above shows that 21383/84 and 21385/86 are to have new cars inserted.
21383/84 finally arrived in London last week (15/9) with new M2 (non-de-icer) car 23384.

(there is a recently opened new thread on S Stock)

Techniquest · 19 Sep 2016

So has a date for the final D stock runs been announced?

Might have to pop down for another run!

District Line D Stock final withdrawal

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