BBC News. Rolling stock numbers fail.

bnm · 11 Dec 2011

From the BBC earlier today.

London Midlands: Extra seats on West Midlands trains

More than 2,300 extra seats a day are being made available on West Midlands trains in a battle against overcrowding.

London Midland said the increased capacity, from Sunday, would come from additional services and in some cases extra carriages.

The company runs services from Birmingham to stations across the West Midlands.

It follows a £93m investment in new rolling stock announced in August.

London Midland replaced 150 of its 25-year-old fleet with 172 new trains, which entered service in the autumn.

Alex Hynes, from the company, said the changes would "go a considerable way to addressing overcrowding on several routes across the Midlands".

Walsall and Leamington services are due to see the greatest increases with more than 600 extra seats across the day.

The company said the Lichfield to Redditch line would see extra seats made available by increasing the number of trains across the day.

It added that some services between Lichfield and Redditch and from Shrewsbury to Birmingham would also see shorter journey times.

Spot the mistake.....

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MidnightFlyer · 11 Dec 2011

Ah. 150 in class, not in quantity

EDIT - Same for 172s too!

Max · 11 Dec 2011

London Midland replaced 150 of its 25-year-old fleet with 172 new trains, which entered service in the autumn.

:roll: Oh dear...

ralphchadkirk · 11 Dec 2011

Some journo didn't do their research properly! Or rather, did do their research but got class number and quantity mixed up! :lol:

Old Timer · 11 Dec 2011

London Midlands: Extra seats on West Midlands trains

More than 2,300 extra seats a day are being made available on West Midlands trains in a battle against overcrowding.

London Midland said the increased capacity, from Sunday, would come from additional services and in some cases extra carriages.

The company runs services from Birmingham to stations across the West Midlands.

It follows a £93m investment in new rolling stock announced in August.

London Midland replaced 150 of its 25-year-old fleet with 172 new trains, which entered service in the autumn.

Alex Hynes, from the company, said the changes would "go a considerable way to addressing overcrowding on several routes across the Midlands".

Walsall and Leamington services are due to see the greatest increases with more than 600 extra seats across the day.

The company said the Lichfield to Redditch line would see extra seats made available by increasing the number of trains across the day. Errr ??

It added that some services between Lichfield and Redditch and from Shrewsbury to Birmingham would also see shorter journey times.

Usual standard from the BBC these days

43167 · 11 Dec 2011

Excellent reporting by Auntie Beeb again.

bnm · 11 Dec 2011

BBC have now edited the item:

London Midland replaced its ageing 150 class fleet with new 172 class trains, which entered service in the autumn.

Just the headline 'London Midlands' to fix now.....

Lampshade · 11 Dec 2011

As mistakes go, quite a big one :lol:

bb21 · 12 Dec 2011

bnm said:
BBC have now edited the item:

Just the headline 'London Midlands' to fix now.....

Are they ever referred to as "150 class" and "172 class"? Surely it's the other way round. It sounds really odd.

Yew · 12 Dec 2011

It's more like how the navy class some ships. Like Daring class destroyers, or Renown class battle cruisers.

ainsworth74 · 12 Dec 2011

Yew said:
It's more like how the navy class some ships. Like Daring class destroyers, or Renown class battle cruisers.

To a degree when you're using names for classes, but under the type system the order is the same as the railway i.e. Type 45 (Daring Class) or Type 23 (Duke Class). It certainly is weird seeing 150 Class or 172 Class though!

Legzr1 · 12 Dec 2011

Old Timer said:
Usual standard from the BBC these days.

Fixed.

Schnellzug · 12 Dec 2011

ainsworth74 said:
To a degree when you're using names for classes, but under the type system the order is the same as the railway i.e. Type 45 (Daring Class) or Type 23 (Duke Class). It certainly is weird seeing 150 Class or 172 Class though!

They're obviously thinking about Castle Class and Hall class; although strictly of course, they were 4073 Class and 4900 Class.

swtandgw · 12 Dec 2011

London Midland replaced its ageing Class 150 fleet with new Class 172 trains, which entered service in the autumn.

Even better. We don't use the NNN Class designator, we use the Class NNN designator. Since when have we used the Class-after-number convention?

northwichcat · 12 Dec 2011

Second mistake of the day: Northern adds 50 'more' carriages to commuter trains. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-16136583 Considering the BBC have already reported Northern gaining 50 carriages, it isn't 50 additional, it's the previously reported 50 being put in to service.

aspierail · 12 Dec 2011

Schoolboy errors from the BBC as per usual.

ACE1888 · 12 Dec 2011

we were more than happy to take the 'ageing' 150's down in the South West (leading to the latest 'removal' of the '142's' from down this way)

cslusarc · 12 Dec 2011

Does anyone know how many new carriages are coming to the National Rail network in 2012 and 2013?

bnm · 13 Dec 2011

They've only gone and cocked up again! :roll:

From the BBC:

Bristol trains get six extra carriages

Trains in the Bristol area have been fitted with six extra carriages, First Great Western has announced.

The company said the extra space, which was introduced on Monday, would provide another 800 seats on the Severn Beach line and the Henbury loop.

Last month the train operator announced it would introduce 48 more carriages to services across its network next year.

The firm said it had "worked hard" to have the carriages ready for the launch of the December timetable.

So, according to the BBC there are to be extra seats provided on a freight only line. Where have they found the space to put extra seats on Class 66s? Unless the Henbury loop has been re-opened to passenger trains and new stations built without anyone noticing! :roll::roll::roll:

And, it's not as if they can hide behind the excuse that they were given duff info by FGW. Their press release makes no mention of the Henbury loop. Why would it?

Yew · 13 Dec 2011

Trains in the Bristol area have been fitted with 6 extra carriages? Really?

Blindtraveler · 13 Dec 2011

as somebody who has volunteered on communitty radio and had to research, orgonise and put features on air this shocking from an orgonisation with a back office team that the small players only dream of. Grrr!

Bedpan · 13 Dec 2011

swtandgw said:
Even better. We don't use the NNN Class designator, we use the Class NNN designator. Since when have we used the Class-after-number convention?

I've never known "class" being used as a prefix rather than a suffix when the class had a name rather than a number, although nowadays we don't seem to use the word "class" at all when referring to Adelentes, Voyagers, Meridians etc. As far as I remember GWR / BR WR steam locos always had the numbers first (ie 57XX class), but equally the Standard 73XXX series were always Class 5, never 5 Class.

swtandgw · 13 Dec 2011

aspierail said:
Schoolboy errors from the BBC as per usual.

I thought we paid our license fees for quality from our public broadcaster?

Schnellzug · 13 Dec 2011

Yew said:
Trains in the Bristol area have been fitted with 6 extra carriages? Really?

yes, there are 8-car 150s running around all over the place now.

Oliver · 13 Dec 2011

There was an article in the Telegraph a while ago, in which their transport correspondent wrote about a record breaking French train whose loco was named "Bo-Bo".

Mojo · 13 Dec 2011

Yew said:
Trains in the Bristol area have been fitted with 6 extra carriages? Really?

Yes, received an email from Sue Evans (Director of Communications) with the following table:

Code:

Details of strengthened services:
Departs 	From 	To 	As far / from 	Previous 	Now 	Departs/arrives
Bristol
0647 	Worcester 	Weymouth 	To Westbury 	3
carriages 	4
carriages 	0841
0730 	Cardiff 	Portsmouth 	To Bristol 	3 	5 	0823
1226 	Southampton 	Gt Malvern 		1 	2 	1441
0640 	Weymouth 	Bristol Parkway 	From Westbury 	2 	4 	0910
1523 	Warminster 	Gt Malvern 	To Gloucester 	2 	3 	1641
0720 	Severn Beach 	Bristol TM 		2 	3 	0758
1700 	Cardiff 	Taunton 		3 	4 	1753
0728 	Taunton 	Bristol Parkway 		3 	4 	0844
0711 	Gloucester 	Swindon 		2 	3 	0831
1310 	Weymouth 	Gloucester 	From Bristol TM 	3 	4 	1541
1642 	Gloucester 	Weymouth 	To Westbury 	3 	4 	1749

tbtc · 13 Dec 2011

TBH, which news organisation covers itself in glory when writing about railways? (outside the specialist press)

AndrewP · 13 Dec 2011

The BBC is rapidly becoming a national embarassment.

Bad reporting, obscene political bias and an utter inability to take blame.

If ever there was an organisation that needed a big shake up!

DarloRich · 13 Dec 2011

ACE1888 said:
we were more than happy to take the 'ageing' 150's down in the South West (leading to the latest 'removal' of the '142's' from down this way)

whcih then get dumped back on us poor northerners :roll: :lol:

tbtc · 13 Dec 2011

AndrewP said:
The BBC is rapidly becoming a national embarassment.

Bad reporting, obscene political bias and an utter inability to take blame.

If ever there was an organisation that needed a big shake up!

...because they didn't realise that the Class 150s weren't 150 trains?

Over-reaction?

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