Harlesden
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Is LUL's Bakerloo Line stock the only stock running on NR metals not required to have the front in bold yellow?
As a side note, does anyone know why some of the 395's have had the lower valance pods painted yellow after original build?
I assumed it was a mod as the % of yellow on the front wasn't enough but only some of the units have had it done.
I believe they've all been updated now - it signifies the end which has the disabled/easy access toilet.
Ouch. I don't think painting one of those on would have made them many friends.It should've been an upside down black triangle
And how long before somebody used it as a jacking point?It should've been an upside down black triangle
Question is, if trains have to have a yellow front, why don't cars have to be bright colours - there is far more chance of a collision and far more need for cars to be visible. THey current trend of many grey or silver cars must lead to accidents as these are far less visible than say bright red ones.
Answer is - government don't dare dictate colour to car users - what would likes of Jeremy Clarkson say.
It is an urban myth.Henry Ford supposedly said that the Model T could only be ordered in black. I don't recall anyone complaining bitterly (whether or not this was an urban myth) about the cruelty of his statement.
It's a little off topic, but it might be interesting to consider. Cyclists wearing EN471 clothing are obviously more visible and probably safer in many situations, so the same logic possibly applies.
why don't cars have to be bright colours - there is far more chance of a collision and far more need for cars to be visible...Answer is - government don't dare dictate colour to car users - what would likes of Jeremy Clarkson say.
Question is, if trains have to have a yellow front, why don't cars have to be bright colours - there is far more chance of a collision and far more need for cars to be visible. THey current trend of many grey or silver cars must lead to accidents as these are far less visible than say bright red ones.
It is an urban myth.
Not always true.
When I was driving, one evening last week, I nearly moved away from a bus stop into a cyclist because I couldn't see him in my mirrors. He was wearing a load of high vis clothes. However, because he had no lights, I wasn't able to see him until he was next to me.
High vis makes a difference, but it's useless with no lights on the bike.
With cars now having daylight running lights, hopefully we'll see an improvement in road safety. As for cyclists - if they don't have lights, then they've got a death wish. These 'ninjas' should wise up, given how vulnerable they are.
Given the recent weeks of bad weather, I've been unfortunate enough to drive on motorways with some rather varied road surfaces, such that some stretches suffer from far more spray than others. The amount of silver/grey cars driving without lights that almost disappear is amazing - and I can't believe these motorists don't put on their lights (presumably the ones that think the lights are only to help them see). Oh, and then there are the others that think that when it rains you put full beam on and fog lights... thank goodness we have stricter tests for train drivers!
Given the shape of most cars, I doubt painting the bonnet yellow would make much difference - but lights definitely do.
Maybe because yellow panels are nothing to do with collisions and more to do with the safety of network rail staff, whereas in most cases when work is being done on a road, the road (or lane on a motorway) will be closed?
And with regards to lights, I'm not a fan of side lights. If conditions are such that you are scared you can't be see/can't see others without lights, you may as well put full lights on (not full beam obviously) and make sure you can be seen
Maybe because yellow pannels are nothing to do with collisions and more to do with the safety of network rail staff, whereas in most cases when work is being done on a road, the road (or lane on a motorway) will be closed?
Millions are spent on the railways to improve safety but having all cars painted in bright colours would cost nothing - it just wouldn't be accepted by the public.
I agree with what you say, except for your point about daylight running lights. I find these incredibly distracting and way too bright to be used in most normal conditions in daylight hours - just as distracting as fog lights being used in conditions as good visibility - but that's just how my brain works, I suppose.
having all cars painted in bright colours would cost nothing
The new problem is the 'silent killers', the electric and hybrid cars. Lethal to the partially sighted and damned dangerous to cyclists (they sneak up behind).
Good! Whatever it takes to get the damned things off the road.The hybrids do come with noisemakers but as they cant be isolated between 2300 and 0600 they are banned in the UK apparently.
Good! Whatever it takes to get the damned things off the road.
All steam locos is a good example of "grandfather rights" exemption