The Olympics

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It begins...

 

[Johnuk123]

http://news.sky.com/story/960789/cops-drafted-in-after-g4s-staff-fail-to-show

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Just think how much the French will be pleased now NOT to have these games over there , as Al Quaeda in the Islamic Maghreb will not have any prestigious sporting events to target in France on behalf of the French immigrant North African population. No extra costs for France for hosting these games at a time when the Eurozone is at its most fragile and all their budgetary frailties are beginning to surface.

 

[steamybrian]

My photograph (hopefully attached) shows the Olympic Torch on the A26 at Tunbridge Wells today passing under the Spa Valley Railway with Jinty 47493 parked on the bridge.
I wonder how many other preserved railways the torch passed under or over. I am aware that the Severn Valley Railway was involved several weeks ago.

 

[SS4]

So if you had not had sponsors the public purse would have had to cough up a few more Billion - would you rather have these restrictions or heavier Government contributions.

Sponsorship has raised £700m a not insignificant sum but not "a few more billion".
http://www.london2012.com/about-us/the-people-delivering-the-games/locog/

I would prefer it to come from the public purse than to save such draconian restrictions on something as basic as food. Does anyone else remember the farce regarding coca cola's attempt to introduce "mineral" water?

 

[Yew]

Maybe we could give everyone blue, red and white shirts. Then when they sit down they form a massive pepsi logo Nothing against that

 

[LE Greys]

Looks like the weather's improving just in time.

 

[Butts]

Sponsorship has raised £700m a not insignificant sum but not "a few more billion".
http://www.london2012.com/about-us/the-people-delivering-the-games/locog/

I would prefer it to come from the public purse than to save such draconian restrictions on something as basic as food. Does anyone else remember the farce regarding coca cola's attempt to introduce "mineral" water?

The old Dansini.....still sold abroad

 

[Deerfold]

The old Dansini.....still sold abroad

And Coca Cola now sells their "Vitamin Water" too - with more calories than coke!

 

[Clip]

I wonder if people would be this fussed about sponsorship if it was a footballing event. They generally have the same close guarded rules regarding sponsorship in and around the grounds.

 

[Deerfold]

I wonder if people would be this fussed about sponsorship if it was a footballing event. They generally have the same close guarded rules regarding sponsorship in and around the grounds.

I'm not impressed with that either - Brazil have had to change their laws on alcohol at football stadia to be allowed to host the Football World Cup because there's an official beer.

Though nowhere's enacted such draconian legislation as have been for the Olympics.

 

[SS4]

I wonder if people would be this fussed about sponsorship if it was a footballing event. They generally have the same close guarded rules regarding sponsorship in and around the grounds.

Is "Brazil 2014" a protected game mark? "London 2012" is.

 

[Clip]

Is "Brazil 2014" a protected game mark? "London 2012" is.

I dont know as its not marketed as Brazil 2014 but 'The FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014' more then likely is a protected game mark given it has FIFA in the title and that is how the world cup is marketed.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Why are so many people moaning about everything associated with the Olympic Games?

These are the sentiments expressed at the start of the very first posting on this particular thread. What a shame to see the way that matters have turned out recently..:roll:

 

[SS4]

It's mainly the feeling that we're being told that we are somehow inferior for not liking it, that no mainstream media accepts the opinion that people are not looking forward to it. Add on sponsorship rules largely inconsistent with a free society and the whole thing smacks of a tournament for the sponsors instead of for the athletes.

 

[Johnuk123]

What gets me is you get people like Kelly Holmes constantly on the t.v. telling everybody that childrens lives are going to be changed.

A running and jumping competititon that lasts a fortnight will not make kids give up Facebook and computers and get down the park.

The ones that might be slightly interested will be the ones that already are.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

A running and jumping competition that lasts a fortnight will not make kids give up Facebook and computers and get down the park.

Since the mid-1970's, we have had various Governments of all shades and persuasions, who all talked incessantly about children eating the "right" type of foods and keeping fit, but in that same time period, how many school playing fields were sold off ?


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A report on the late night news tonight refers to a threatened disruption by members of the PCS union, who are in the Border Control area amongst others, as a result of a ballot for industrial action that very strangely will take affect in the period of the Olympic Games, even though there was only a 20% turn-out in the ballot. Will this lead to other unions "jumping on the same bandwagon of disruption" ?

Keep it all piling on, I say, as the more disruption there is, the less chance that Britain will ever be "saddled" with this type of event ever again. It is obvious that Britain should never have been considered to host this particular event in the first place.

 

[WatcherZero]

Several Chinese athletes after experiencing a couple of days of London weather have relocated their training camp from Tottenham to Germany. They claim to have experienced breathing problems from the cold and the wet.

 

[Stephen55a1960]

Several Chinese athletes after experiencing a couple of days of London weather have relocated their training camp from Tottenham to Germany. They claim to have experienced breathing problems from the cold and the wet.

That's bizarre!!hock: What will happen (when they're actually performing) if it rains and is cold in London?

 

[Butts]

That's bizarre!!hock: What will happen (when they're actually performing) if it rains and is cold in London?

What do you mean if.......

Probably heard what happened in Tottenham last August

 

[Stephen55a1960]

What do you mean if.......

Probably heard what happened in Tottenham last August

Relocating (for training purposes) from Tottenham to Germany is bizarre. How about acclimatizing to the harsh and unforgiving British climate? Get used to it I say:roll:

 

[Clip]

Keep it all piling on, I say, as the more disruption there is, the less chance that Britain will ever be "saddled" with this type of event ever again. It is obvious that Britain should never have been considered to host this particular event in the first place.

And why?

Because the British people themselves as a whole are pretty inept at doing anything but moaning and trying to bring misery to something that should be a joy and is a joy to millions of people?

We are as well placed as anyone to host sporting events. And I need to remind you all once again, this is not the 'Britsih' nor 'English' Olympic games.

This is the LONDON Olympic games 2012. Amazing how some of you seem to forget this.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We are as well placed as anyone to host sporting events. And I need to remind you all once again, this is not the 'Britsih' nor 'English' Olympic games.

This is the LONDON Olympic games 2012. Amazing how some of you seem to forget this.

Silly of me to imagine that London is part of Britain or England, as you are at pains to point out above.....my apologies..:roll:

Perhaps I should have been more attentive in Geography classes 50 years ago. Incidentally, how long has LONDON been on the South Coast as there seems to be a scurrillous rumour doing the rounds that the LONDON Olympic Games 2012 sailing events are being held in Weymouth Bay and Portland Harbour. Perhaps someone should have a quiet word in the ear of Lord Coe about this geographical oversight and have these sailing events transferred to the river Fleet.....:roll:

 

[Clip]

Silly of me to imagine that London is part of Britain or England, as you point out above.....my apologies..:roll:

Perhaps I should have been more attentive in Geography classes 50 years ago.

Its got nothing to do with the country or island the games are on. Its all and ONLY about the city they are in. Once you get past that concept its pretty straightforward

Did you call them the 'Chinese' 'Australian' and so on and so forth Olympics previously? I very much doubt you or anyone else ever did.

In essence the Olympics have nowt to do with the rest of the country because it was the bid for London that won them just like Machesters bid for the 2000 Olympics had nowt to do with any other part of the country or island either.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Its got nothing to do with the country or island the games are on. Its all and ONLY about the city they are in. Once you get past that concept its pretty straightforward

If this "highlighted" part above is true, why did you not agree with me that both Weymouth Bay or Portland Harbour are most definately NOT part of LONDON as defined by you. As you say, I do find it hard to get past that particular version of the geography of LONDON.
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Also, harking back to the LONDON emphasis, why were G4S asked to supply security personnel to MANCHESTER area establishments for the LONDON games.

 

[Clip]

If this "highlighted" part above is true, why did you not agree with me that both Weymouth Bay or Portland Harbour are most definately NOT part of LONDON as defined by you. As you say, I do find it hard to get past that particular version of the geography of LONDON.
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Also, harking back to the LONDON emphasis, why were G4S asked to supply security personnel to MANCHESTER area establishments for the LONDON games.

Hard to do sailing events in the Thames. But part of the legacy was that they would put some events to other parts of the country like sailing and the football.

So are you now saying with your hand on your heart that what is actually happenning is the BRITISH OLYMPICC GAMES 2012? Or even the english or welsh or scottish or northern irish?

No, they are the london games, won by a bid put in by London along with the help of others from government and sports stars to try and get one if not the biggest sporting event to London. The same as people done for Manchester. But they would not have been called anything other then Manchester 2000 if they had of won then.And they wouldve had sailing somewhere else too as the canals are not big enough.

If you are going to get picky about the sailing and such like could you point to where it is the Portland & Weymouth 2012 sailing Olympic games? Or is it London 2012 sailing @ Portland & Weymouth? http://www.london2012.com/sailing/

Or what about the London 2012 Olympic football event? Is that branded as anything other than London 2012? http://www.london2012.com/football/

Try not to twist what I am saying nor what is billed as anything else because even a man of your intelligence knows that it is nothing other than London 2012.
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I guess really it is just peoples nature to nit pick at every negative about things that try to go on in this country from HS2 to new airports and the Olympics,though obviously trains will get defended on a rail forum but its still the same thing.

Have we as a nation really lowered ourselves from revelling in things that are good for the country to a bunch of negative moany old soaks?

This really is my last input on the Olympics as it makes me sad to see peoples negativity surrounding this event.

 

[heart-of-wessex]

I don't mind it if it's going to help us financially, but I am going to be pretty peeved off if the Government says we are now worst off after the Olympics....excuse me? Worst off? Why pay for a stadium then when we are already trillions in debt!

Also last night on the news, I see the opening ceremony will be cut by 30 minutes to allow people to get home after the event at 0230am (why is the ceremony at night?) but either case, this has apparently ****ed some people off who had a display for the ceremony, who are now told they can't do it.

He said 'to get people back to the city' so then I guess night 'N' buses are stopped then and I must have dreamt the 24 hour Javelin service running to/from Stratford...?

 

[Deerfold]

He said 'to get people back to the city' so then I guess night 'N' buses are stopped then and I must have dreamt the 24 hour Javelin service running to/from Stratford...?

I doubt either of these could cope with everyone from the Olympic Stadium if there were no tubes - which will finish around 0230 that night - even with the improved frequencies on late evening and night services around the Olympic Park.

 

[Oswyntail]

I don't mind it if it's going to help us financially, but I am going to be pretty peeved off if the Government says we are now worst off after the Olympics....excuse me? Worst off? Why pay for a stadium then when we are already trillions in debt!...

Remember that the commitments to the whole thing were made when the official line was that the economy was thriving (delusional, of course). It would surely have done irreparable damage to Britain's reputation to have cancelled the event in 2010 (when the realists took over). I am sure that there will be a plethora of different assessments of the overall benefits to the country afterwards, with politicians of all sides claiming the bits they did have benefited everyone, while the bits the others were responsible for have plunged us into a new dark age.
Me? I shudder to think what everyone is going to have to find to talk (moan?) about once the Games are done and dusted.

 

[ainsworth74]

Why pay for a stadium then when we are already trillions in debt!

Because when we agreed to do the games we weren't in the middle of the biggest recession since the 1930s? People go on about how the games are a waste of money when we're in a time of belt tightening but that's clouded totally by the advantage of hindsight. Back in 2005 it would have been very hard to predict that the economic situation of 2012 would have been as bad as it is.

(why is the ceremony at night?)

Probably to try and get it to fit in at time where it's at a reasonable hour for the international TV/radio/internet market. It isn't just people in the UK that will be watching.