Would Scottish Independence Affect services to/from England?

[Xenophon PCDGS]

i know someone that asked if we needed passports to get to Yorkshire so it aint just Yanks.

Was it the Soviet Socialist Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire have been the particular part of that region been the one that they had in mind when they made their query ?...

 

[asylumxl]

Was it the Soviet Socialist Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire have been the particular part of that region been the one that they had in mind when they made their query ?...

No such formalities are required to visit South Yorkshire. All that is required is an interpreter and some form of naked flame (to dissuade the indigenous people attacking).

 

[Cyberbeagle]

Hope not.
Enterprise is not the greatest service in the world for a 100 mile journey between the island's two main cities.
Electrification of the line should happen sometime in the 22nd Century.

Well... only if the time is ripe... in the fullness of time... and taking things in the round against other competing interests...

 

[Howardh]

No such formalities are required to visit South Yorkshire. All that is required is an interpreter and some form of naked flame (to dissuade the indigenous people attacking).

We've always had to carry visa to get from Lancashire to Y******e, never mind a passport. Currency rates were good though, five of our pigeons always got us a room for the night. If we were lucky the toilets were inside.



Anyhow, there are a lot more question about Scottish Independence such as x-border post (higher rates??), the BBC, newspapers published in England, Pensions based in England, power/utilities etc etc.

Of course the old Czechoslovakia would have had these questions too.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I thought of this thread whilst viewing the Football thread and wondered if a YES vote would finally put an end to teams from the senior divisions of Scotland harbouring a yearning to play in one of the English senior leagues ?

 

[thenorthern]

I thought of this thread whilst viewing the Football thread and wondered if a YES vote would finally put an end to teams from the senior divisions of Scotland harbouring a yearning to play in one of the English senior leagues ?

Would than mean that Berwick Rangers would move to the English League?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Would than mean that Berwick Rangers would move to the English League?

Now then, you know which two very large Glasgow-based teams that I had in mind, but dare not name..

 

[edwin_m]

Would than mean that Berwick Rangers would move to the English League?

Maybe Berwick will try to secede from England and join Scotland?

 

[anti-pacer]

We've always had to carry visa to get from Lancashire to Y******e, never mind a passport. Currency rates were good though, five of our pigeons always got us a room for the night. If we were lucky the toilets were inside.

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Aaaah, but at least we HAVE toilets!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We've always had to carry visa to get from Lancashire to Y******e, never mind a passport. Currency rates were good though, five of our pigeons always got us a room for the night. If we were lucky the toilets were inside.

I used to remember the exchange rate being two Chorley cakes to the Yorkshire curd tart..

 

[reb0118]

Now then, you know which two very large Glasgow-based teams that I had in mind, but dare not name..

You are very welcome to them!

These are two random views each from a supporter of said teams.

1) If youse (sic) jock b*stards get independence I'm moving to England!

2) I wouldn't feel safe in a Presbyterian Theocracy - that's what will happen if the SNP take power.

Obviously I didn't meet the above in the same Glasgow pub but it does show the mentality of some of the Old Firm supporters.

here & here.

In the interests of fairness there are some decent Old Firm fans out there.

 

[beeza1]

We've always had to carry visa to get from Lancashire to Y******e,

Quite rightly too, we don't want you lot from "ovur thur" coming over here.

One thing puzzles me about the whole Scottish independence issue especially regarding the EU.
As I see it, The UK, (England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland) are members of the dreaded EU, if Scotland does indeed vote for independence the UK (as we know it) will no longer exist, so surely we will have to re-apply for membership? Now that people are aware of the real cost of membership, not just financial, I doubt the British public will fall for the same con trick as we did in the Seventies.

 

[DownSouth]

One thing puzzles me about the whole Scottish independence issue especially regarding the EU.
As I see it, The UK, (England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland) are members of the dreaded EU, if Scotland does indeed vote for independence the UK (as we know it) will no longer exist, so surely we will have to re-apply for membership?

The way international law sees it is quite different to how you see it. One region seceding from a larger country does not affect the continuing existence of that country, including that country's membership of international organisations like the UN or EU.

 

[anti-pacer]

Quite rightly too, we don't want you lot from "ovur thur" coming over here.

 

[merlodlliw]

Was it the Soviet Socialist Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire have been the particular part of that region been the one that they had in mind when they made their query ?...

For three years I traveled to Barnsley once a week,as you left Derbyshire, the sign "Socialist Republic Of South Yorkshire" greeted you.
I soon leaned a bacon bap, is a bacon teacake in Barnsley,

 

[class303]

It would indeed. Given the stick the Daily Mail rightly gets on here, it's surprising to find that one or two people still endorse its politics!

....and I'm still waiting for anyone to produce a shred of evidence that the SNP is "racist" or "bigoted"

I am Scottish. Greenock born and bred. The whole ethos of the SNP is - whinge whinge whinge whinge - all London's fault, all Westminster's fault, all English people's fault boo hoo hoo. Certainly (imo) a xenophobic party that attracts the same demographic as the BNP and EDL does south of the border (uneducated, angry, narrow minded, bigoted types).

Just replace hatred of "the english" with minorities or Muslims and you've got the difference between SNP, BNP & EDL.

I personally cannot wait for the silent majority in Scotland to vote no, because as a Scot I'm embarrassed to have to apologise to the rest of my UK cousins for Alex Salmond's bile and reassure them that we really arn't as small minded up north as the vocal yes camp like to make out. Just because the YES camp shout the loudest doesn't mean they speak for everyone.

Don't take my word for it though, take a look at any poll.

The bookmakers think it's a foregone conclusion as well.

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome
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I thought of this thread whilst viewing the Football thread and wondered if a YES vote would finally put an end to teams from the senior divisions of Scotland harbouring a yearning to play in one of the English senior leagues ?

wouldn't make any difference. The Scottish and English have separate FAs and thus the leagues are already completely independent.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Back to Caledonian ponderings.....

If independence should occur, would Scotland, with the aid of Norway, demand the terms of the Treaty of Perth 1266 be re-examined with the proviso that Scotland establishes full control over the Isle of Man, ignoring any treaty or legislation effected after 1266.

 

[Trog]

Am I right in thinking that when the railways were first built there was a customs post on Carlisle Station, to collect a tax on the import of Whisky from Scotland.

 

[class303]

Am I right in thinking that when the railways were first built there was a customs post on Carlisle Station, to collect a tax on the import of Whisky from Scotland.

Considering the act of union was in 1707 i'd say it's safe to say that's an urban myth.

 

[anti-pacer]

I think we should all face the fact that Scotland has about as much chance of gaining independence as Northern Rail do at one day having the UK's newest rolling stock!

Surely this thread has been exhausted now? :roll:

 

[merlodlliw]

I think we should all face the fact that Scotland has about as much chance of gaining independence as Northern Rail do at one day having the UK's newest rolling stock!

Surely this thread has been exhausted now? :roll:

not until it reaches 200
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Am I right in thinking that when the railways were first built there was a customs post on Carlisle Station, to collect a tax on the import of Whisky from Scotland.

One ponders why the Scots say Whisky & the Irish say it with an e Whiskey,mines a Paddy.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I think we should all face the fact that Scotland has about as much chance of gaining independence as Northern Rail do at one day having the UK's newest rolling stock!

What a cruel...yet so very true...posting...:cry:

Perhaps all the local authorities in TfGM-land will jointly chip-in towards the cost of a full-sized bronze effigy of one of "Newton Heath's finest" and erect it in the most suitable position to remind future generations of what was inflicted upon the populace by this latest episode of "The Harrying of the North"....

 

[Butts]

not until it reaches 200
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One ponders why the Scots say Whisky & the Irish say it with an e Whiskey,mines a Paddy.

You traitor

What about the Welsh variety ?

 

[thenorthern]

You traitor

What about the Welsh variety ?

Or the English type.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

What about the Welsh variety ?

Would that be spelled "wwhiskky" ?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What about the Welsh variety ?

Does the word DYVRDWY have an association ?

 

[SkinnyDave]

I am Scottish. Greenock born and bred. The whole ethos of the SNP is - whinge whinge whinge whinge - all London's fault, all Westminster's fault, all English people's fault boo hoo hoo. Certainly (imo) a xenophobic party that attracts the same demographic as the BNP and EDL does south of the border (uneducated, angry, narrow minded, bigoted types).

Just replace hatred of "the english" with minorities or Muslims and you've got the difference between SNP, BNP & EDL.

I personally cannot wait for the silent majority in Scotland to vote no, because as a Scot I'm embarrassed to have to apologise to the rest of my UK cousins for Alex Salmond's bile and reassure them that we really arn't as small minded up north as the vocal yes camp like to make out. Just because the YES camp shout the loudest doesn't mean they speak for everyone.

Don't take my word for it though, take a look at any poll.

The bookmakers think it's a foregone conclusion as well.

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome
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wouldn't make any difference. The Scottish and English have separate FAs and thus the leagues are already completely independent.

What an amusing and unintelligent post this is!!

It's attitudes like yours that hold Scotland back and your comments about the SNP being like the BNP etc are just ridiculous and moronic. Prove it!! I'm sure there lawyers will have a laugh!!

Get a grip fella
I work in England and have more English friends than a Scottish yet I fully support an independent Scotland and I used to be a Labour voter all my days.

Polls have remained static there are a third for, a third against and 30-40 don'tknows. It will be close and if it doesn't happen this time then it will in my lifetime.

 

[merlodlliw]

You traitor

What about the Welsh variety ?

Welsh whisky (Welsh: Wisgi Cymreig; alternative form: chwisgi)

http://www.welsh-whisky.co.uk/

I wonder if its sold on Gerald as a Gog, I have to admit Penderyn is one of the better things to come from the South

 

[khib70]

What an amusing and unintelligent post this is!!

It's attitudes like yours that hold Scotland back and your comments about the SNP being like the BNP etc are just ridiculous and moronic. Prove it!! I'm sure there lawyers will have a laugh!!

Get a grip fella
I work in England and have more English friends than a Scottish yet I fully support an independent Scotland and I used to be a Labour voter all my days.

Polls have remained static there are a third for, a third against and 30-40 don'tknows. It will be close and if it doesn't happen this time then it will in my lifetime.

This

Despite repeated requests, Class 303 has yet to produce a shred of evidence to support his ill-informed rantings. He's rapidly giving the impression of being exactly the sort of person he accuses the SNP of being.

But he's not untypical of those, especially in the media, who daily predict the collapse or ruination of everything if Scotland becomes independent. Not least the railways. We should just behave, do as we're told, and keep shelling out cash for HS2 and Crossrail.....

 

[Gwenllian2001]

Does the word DYVRDWY have an association ?

No. Dyfrdwy, to spell it correctly, is the river which the English call the Dee. The name is of some interest. The first part 'dyfr' is the old rendering of 'dwr' meaning water. This is the origin of the name Dover. The second part 'dwy' means that is the main or ruling river in the district.

Sadly, it has nothing to with whisky, whiskey or wisgi. Whisky, of whatever spelling, was produced in Wales from sometime in the middle ages until 1910, when the distillery at Frongoch near Bala finally closed, (The temperance movement was at its height.), and that was that until the distillery in Penderyn, near Merhyr Tydfil, opened with its first products going on sale in 2004.