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Xenophon PCDGS
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A valiant effort by Broad there, the follow on has now been avoided
England were on course at 82-2...then found themselves 91-8...
England 136 all out...(52.4 overs)
Carberry 40
Broad 32
Johnson 4-61
Harris 3-28
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Johnuk123
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Complete English capitulation, all our batsmen look as if they've never seen a bat before.
Australia 206 in front without losing a wicket, this is going to be a very painful but deserved defeat.
Australia 206 in front without losing a wicket, this is going to be a very painful but deserved defeat.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Just looked at the match bowling figures combined for Swann....32-5-102-0
It ain't over till the fat lady sings is all I've got to say on this match...
Xenophon PCDGS
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I am wondering if there is anything about the wicket at The Gabba that the Australian team know about that the England team do not ?
Just a couple of points of interest:-
1)...Looking at the first innings of both teams, Australia went from 73-2 to 265-8 (192 runs from their middle order) whereas England went from 82-2 to 91-8 (9 runs from their middle order).
2)...Johnson is in the Australian team as a strike bowler, yet as a batsman, he scored 64 in the first innings and 39 not out in the second innings.
If the fat lady does indeed sing, can it be a song that will bring on torrential rain for the next few days in the Brisbane area.
Mitchell Johnson has a Test high score of 123* and has batted in the middle order for Western Australia and Australia a few times in the one day format. With Shane Watson not bowling due to concerns over aggravating a recent injury, anyone would rate him the only genuine all-rounder playing in either team.
The English coaches should be more than a little concerned with their lack of stamina in the field shown so far which was also a factor in the big scores by the Australian tail during the away series in the middle of the year. They appear to lack the ability to finish off the job once they've got the top six out, giving Haddin and the bowlers free reign.
I've been impressed with watching Carberry in the field. With his speed across the ground and massive throwing arm he reminds me a lot of Kieron Pollard, Kane Richardson and Brett Lee - big fast bowlers who are/were worth a huge amount to their teams with their work in the outfield.
Xenophon PCDGS
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I'm the phone to her agent as we speak
Only RailUK moderators have such skills..
Not only did the rain arrive at The Gabba, but a proper storm with lightning and thunder, lumps of ice all over the outfield and lakes appearing near the covers....
hock:England 142-4..(59.2 overs)
Cook 65 not out from 193 balls
Bell was out having scored 32.
The sun has made a new appearance.
Ah got to love that Aussie arrogance
Johnuk123
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A gobby Aussie where have they all been for the last few years.
Xenophon PCDGS
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England showed consistency in terms of capitulation in both innings.
First innings...82-2 to 91-8
Second innings 130-3 to 179 all out
Was the pre-match confidence so strong in the England coaching team and playing squad that it was thought unnecessary to concentrate upon the skills required by the middle-order batsmen to both consolidate matters then to build a platform to build the innings from there.
First innings...82-2 to 91-8
Second innings 130-3 to 179 all out
Was the pre-match confidence so strong in the England coaching team and playing squad that it was thought unnecessary to concentrate upon the skills required by the middle-order batsmen to both consolidate matters then to build a platform to build the innings from there.
Quite! On aggregate it's 3-1
Searle
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That was just the worst performance from a batting side I think I've ever seen. Dire is the only thing I can say to it.
I think about 6-7 people got out over both innings from trying to flick it off the leg, and going straight to leg slip/short leg/the keeper. I just don't understand how they can't learn, especially after three people IN A ROW did it in the first innings collapse.
I think about 6-7 people got out over both innings from trying to flick it off the leg, and going straight to leg slip/short leg/the keeper. I just don't understand how they can't learn, especially after three people IN A ROW did it in the first innings collapse.
Whistler40145
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What an embarrassing result for England.
I have a wonderful expression for them, WOBT (Waste of Bloody Time).
The England Performance Squad could probably do a better job.
I have a wonderful expression for them, WOBT (Waste of Bloody Time).
The England Performance Squad could probably do a better job.
Johnuk123
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Complacency is the reason we've been humiliated.
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No. Lack of talent / application. UK batsmen do well against average quality spin / medium fast bowlers. Against a quality spinner (e.g. Warne), or a really fast bowler (e.g. Johnson), they have been fragile for many years.
And whilst our bowlers do well on "helpful" wickets, when did we last have a pair of really fast bowlers who could consistently produce balls with consistent line & length ?
Anderson is reasonably good at that, about equal with Peter Siddle but with less capacity to shift his tactics as necessary. You can add to that the fact that our guys played the line and length stuff pretty well in the first match, only 4 of the 11 wickets lost to the three medium pacers were to line and length balls.
Steven Finn is pretty good on his better days, I think our batsmen will find him more troubling than Chris Tremlett as a skilful bowler who earns wickets rather than tempting the batsmen to hit themselves out.
The battle of the slow men will be interesting, before the series I would have said Swann is far superior to Lyon, but the way Swann's benign bowling got smashed out of the park (hit for six by Michael Clarke) and the latest improvement by Lyon would suggest that's up for grabs during this series. Swann will have to wait until the final match before he gets a potentially helpful wicket while Lyon seems more likely to get success on non-turning pitches.
Steven Finn is pretty good on his better days, I think our batsmen will find him more troubling than Chris Tremlett as a skilful bowler who earns wickets rather than tempting the batsmen to hit themselves out.
The battle of the slow men will be interesting, before the series I would have said Swann is far superior to Lyon, but the way Swann's benign bowling got smashed out of the park (hit for six by Michael Clarke) and the latest improvement by Lyon would suggest that's up for grabs during this series. Swann will have to wait until the final match before he gets a potentially helpful wicket while Lyon seems more likely to get success on non-turning pitches.
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Trott sent back home, probably for the best as he's been pretty dire for some time.
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That's a bit unfair, he has a stress/anxiety related illness and deserves sympathy
Xenophon PCDGS
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Does anyone know how long he has been afflicted by this illness. If it has been some time, he should not have been allowed to travel with the tour squad.
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A report states that he has been 'coping' with it for several years.... emphasis on the 'coping', clearly at the moment he is unable to do so.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Marcus Trescothick springs to mind about this matter.
This is all too familiar. Anyone who has fought the black dog will sympathise, and know the feeling that the last thing you want to do is "give in" and let the dog win. It is only when things get just beyond too much that you can finally be persuaded to let go. My thoughts go out to Trott - and anyone else who fights this awful disease.
There is also the issue that depression is very much stigmatised and misunderstood by many as something that only happens to 'soft' people or that you can talk yourself out of. That the English team's press release had to use the "stress-related illness" euphemism is a good example of that.
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No fan of sport wants to see that happen to a player on any sporting team, or to a friend or family member.
This is a good reminder of the responsibility that organisations like BeyondBlue and the Movember Foundation have to use the platform of sport to communicate well when there are few other avenues for talking about men's health issues.
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I work for the company doing the video production for the screens at Adelaide Oval each season and we got our first look at the near-complete new facilities this morning. It's a pretty awesome facility behind the scenes with a generously-sized suite for our gear and excellent air conditioning (it's 36.4° right now!) which will come in handy.
As a small perk I did get to have a quick look at the pitches. To protect it during the Sheffield Shield game scheduled from Friday to Monday this weekend, the Test pitch has been left very green so England had better prepare for more fire and brimstone in the first half of the match before it dries out for Lyon to rip through them in the second half
EM2
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On the domestic side of things, what are the thoughts on next season's T20 competition beign rebranded T20 Blast, and also Warwickshire becoming the Birmingham Bears for said competition?
Xenophon PCDGS
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Rugby League professional clubs went down this avenue some years ago and my own Rugby Union professional team are now known as Sale Sharks. Something that seems to be borrowed from the American "gridiron" football league possibly.
Was there already some renaming of the top county cricket sides in the short game as borne out by the title Lancashire Lightning.