Trivia: Stations with bay platform which can take HSTs

[IanXC]

As per the title how many through stations have bay platforms which can accommodate an HST (or equivalent length train)?

Aberdeen and York come to mind from my travels but where else is there?

 

[Starmill]

Crossover and I had a brief discussion on this recently. We assume that you intend for it to qualify as a 'bay' platform, the same station must also have through platforms. By this token, London Euston would not count - but Manchester Piccadilly would

Technically, an HST fits at least one of the bays at Darlington - but again I assume you mean to discount anything less than a 2+8 set?

I wouldn't expect to see one there, but I'd guess at London Blackfriars too. St Pancras is obviously a real edge case...

 

[Buttsy]

How about Liverpool Lime Street, technically it has a through platform, as does Glasgow Central...

 

[Masbroughlad]

Leeds

 

[Starmill]

Portsmouth & Southsea?
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Cheshunt?

 

[Altnabreac]

Soon there'll be HSTs calling regularly at Glasgow Queen St

 

[The Planner]

Anything 220m plus I would presume. Easily found by checking the platform lengths in the Timetable Planning Rules.

 

[Railsigns]

Stirling (Platform 10).

 

[Starmill]

London Bridge?

 

[185143]

Crossover and I had a brief discussion on this recently. We assume that you intend for it to qualify as a 'bay' platform, the same station must also have through platforms. By this token, London Euston would not count - but Manchester Piccadilly would

Technically, an HST fits at least one of the bays at Darlington - but again I assume you mean to discount anything less than a 2+8 set?

I wouldn't expect to see one there, but I'd guess at London Blackfriars too. St Pancras is obviously a real edge case...

I would say it counts as a bay platform if the majority of platforms are through. Platform 5 at MCO is a bay but platform 5 at MAN is not.

 

[Starmill]

Colchester P4 apparently has 256m in use. I can't quite tell it it's a bay though, I've never been there and NRE says it's disused!
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I would say it counts as a bay platform if the majority of platforms are through. Platform 5 at MCO is a bay but platform 5 at MAN is not.

Not a particularly strong definition! Would you disagree that platforms 3 and 4 at Blackfriars are bays? A majority of platforms at Blackfriars are not 'through' though!

 

[swt_passenger]

Reading has three available for any HSTs arriving via Earley, or a shunt...

 

[SignalSighting]

Dundee platform 2 and Perth platform 6.

 

[Hyphen]

I'll muddy the waters and say Nottingham!

Now things have been filled in, the current platform 5 (old platform 4) is now hemmed in by the new plat 4, making it in essence a bay platform.

Very regularly used by EMT HSTs to London.

 

[causton]

Colchester P4 apparently has 256m in use. I can't quite tell it it's a bay though, I've never been there and NRE says it's disused!
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Not a particularly strong definition! Would you disagree that platforms 3 and 4 at Blackfriars are bays? A majority of platforms at Blackfriars are not 'through' though!

Perhaps if a %age or more of platforms are terminating, they cannot be called bays. For example, 2/4 I would class as bays, 3/5... hmm... 4/6... Perhaps something like 67% could work!

 

[theageofthetra]

Gravesend platform 0 can take 12 cars.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Bristol Temple Meads, surely... At least one side of one of the islands has only a buffer stop at one end.

 

[Searle]

Portsmouth & Southsea?
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Cheshunt?

I would love to see an HST at either Cheshunt or Portsmouth & SS!

 

[HSTEd]

How about defining it as a bay if the majority of the platforms arriving from the same direction are through.

 

[JamesRowden]

How about defining it as a bay if the majority of the platforms arriving from the same direction are through.

Under your definition Orpington would not count since it has four London facing bay platforms (12-car) and four through platforms. But the majority of trains run through the station (16 through and 6 terminaters off-peak).

 

[HSTEd]

Under your definition Orpington would not count since it has four London facing bay platforms (12-car) and four through platforms. But the majority of trains run through the station (16 through and 6 terminaters off-peak).

Well then how about it being a bay if half or more of the platforms arriving from the same direction are through.

 

[bunnahabhain]

I'll muddy the waters and say Nottingham!

Now things have been filled in, the current platform 5 (old platform 4) is now hemmed in by the new plat 4, making it in essence a bay platform.

Very regularly used by EMT HSTs to London.

Platform 5 is a six car platform.

 

[IanXC]

Interesting stuff - there's many more locations than I imagined!

In terms of a definition I was thinking any station with any number of through lines, which has bays (ie non through lines).

 

[CarltonA]

In terms of a definition I was thinking any station with any number of through lines, which has bays (ie non through lines).

Paddington. (Ducks under desk).

 

[CallySleeper]

Don't think anyone's said Aberdeen yet.

I'll muddy the waters and say Nottingham!

Now things have been filled in, the current platform 5 (old platform 4) is now hemmed in by the new plat 4, making it in essence a bay platform.

Very regularly used by EMT HSTs to London.

No, platform five will never fit a 2+8 HST.

 

[Buttsy]

I'm pretty sure Birmingham Moor Street could fit one, but I could be wrong...

 

[GrimsbyPacer]

York has long bay platforms.
Newcastle Central has HSTs in bays now I think.

 

[Darandio]

York has long bay platforms.
Newcastle Central has HSTs in bays now I think.

York was in the OP, I don't think the Newcastle bays would take HST's, certainly not 2+9 anyway.

 

[glbotu]

York has long bay platforms.
Newcastle Central has HSTs in bays now I think.

York I think could.

As someone who spends a lot of time at Newcastle Central, it definitely can't. The bays are 1, 9, 10, 11 and 12 none of which can even close to hold an HST.

Platform 3 is used to terminate most of the EC Newcastle terminators, but is a through platform.
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From the NR Timetable Planning Rules:

York Bay Platforms:

1 - 184m - unsuitable
2 - 169m - unsuitable
6 - 264m - suitable
7 - 249m - suitable
8 - 138m - unsuitable

Newcastle Bay Platforms:

1 - 161m - unsuitable
9 - 112m - unsuitable
10- 114m - unsuitable
11- 106m - unsuitable
12- 108m - unsuitable

Darlington Bay Platforms

2 - 181m - unsuitable
3 - 200m - unsuitable

Leeds Bay Platforms

1 - 301m - suitable
2 - 236m - 2+8 ok (I think), 2+9 no
3 - 133m - unsuitable
4 - 152m - unsuitable
5 - 201m - unsuitable
6 - 279m - suitable
7 - 99 m - unsuitable
10 - 99m - unsuitable
13 - 105m - unsuitable
14 - 77m - unsuitable
17 - 105m - unsuitable

 

[GrimsbyPacer]

So a HST is 0.25km long?
I'd also guess the buffered sets are different lengths.