Livery variations & full fleet details - East Midlands Trains

P156KWJ · 20 Apr 2008

I know there's a thread for the 4 new TOCs and their liveries, but this one specifies for just EMT, as they currently have more liveries than you can count with two hands!

Units and Locomotives (including class 43s):

Company's non-standard liveries...

First Hull Trains
- Class 222:222102

Midland Mainline teal / orange stripes
-Class 08: 08908

Midland Mainline grey/blue
-Class 43: 43043-47,43049-50, 43052, 43054, 43059-61, 43064, 43066, -43072-76, 43082, 43085

Maintrain blue
-Class 08: 08525, 08690, 08899, 08950

North Western Trains blue/gold stars
-Class 153: 153313

Central Trains green / yellow:
-Class 153: 153376, 153379, 153383-85
-Class 158: 158780, 158788, 158846-47, 158852, 158854, 158856 (OOS), 158857-58, 158862

Northern Spirit Purple / Gold 'N'
-Class 158: 158770, 158773, 158774, 158777, 158799, 158806, 158810, 158812-13

Wessex trains Alphaline Silver / Pink
-Class 158: 158863-66

FGW Black / Gold (Heart of Devon & Cornwall)
-Class 153: 153308

South West Trains white
- Class 158: 158881-2

Company's own liveries...

East Midlands Trains Mainline
-Class 158: 158783, 158785
-Class 222: 222001-23, 222101
-Class 43: 43048, 43055, 43058, 43081, 43083, 43089

East Midlands Trains Connect
-Class 153: 153302, 153310, 153311, 153319, 153321, 153326, 153355 (no EMT branding as of 26th April due to graffiti damage), 153357, 153374, 153381
-Class 156: 156401, 156403-06, 156408,156410, 156413, 156415 (ALL UNITS)

Coaching Stock:

Midland Mainline Grey / Blue
-Mk3 TGS:44027, 44041, 44044, 44046, 44047, 44051, 44054, 44070, 44071, 44083
-Mk3 TS:42100, 42111, 42112, 42113, 42119, 42120, 42121, 42123, 42124, 42125, 42131, 42132, 42133, 42135, 42136, 42137, 42148, 42149, 42151, 42152, 42153, 42155, 42156, 42157, 42164, 42165, 42194, 42205, 42210, 42220, 42225, 42227, 42229, 42230, 42324, 42327, 42328, 42335, 42337, 42339, 42341
-Mk3 TF:41041, 41046, 41057, 41061, 41062, 41064, 41067, 41068, 41069, 41070, 41071, 41075, 41076, 41077, 41078, 41079, 41084, 41111, 41112, 41113, 41154
-Mk3 TRFB:40700, 40729, 40730, 40741, 40746, 40749, 40751, 40753, 40756

East Midlands Trains Mainline
-Mk3 TGS: 44048
-Mk3 TS: 42139, 42140, 42141, 42329
-Mk3 TF: 41063, 41072
-Mk3 TRFB: 40728

Porterbrook White / lilac
- Mk1 BG: 6392, 6395, 6397

Maintrain Blue
-Mk1 BG: 6398, 6399

Status codes:

Refurbished
On Hire
~~cascaded to other TOC for hire / permanent lease~~
Out of service / stored
Paxman Valenta engined

Owner Codes:

Stagecoach Midland Rail (Traded as EMT)
Porterbrook
Angel Trains
HSBC

Additions very much welcome

. I do not accept responsibility for any mistakes.

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class 313 · 21 Apr 2008

Also some 222s are running around with EMT stickers.

P156KWJ · 21 Apr 2008

class 313 said:
Also some 222s are running around with EMT stickers.

aah are they? Could you specify which? They do have a lot of meridians, so they'd need to - brake dust has covered the glue off the old MML stuff so it says MML in brown :lol:

class 313 · 21 Apr 2008

156401 said:
aah are they? Could you specify which?

Yes some are. But I can't number them.

37402 · 21 Apr 2008

For 158xxx at Donny, read 159xxx.

P156KWJ · 21 Apr 2008

darn - I'll remove it

Gizmogle · 21 Apr 2008

156401 said:
They do have a lot of meridians

Yep. All 23 of them!

P156KWJ · 22 Apr 2008

Gizmogle said:
Yep. All 23 of them!

ah yes, suppose I always think there's more seeing as there's always 2 or three of the stupid things in Nottingham, we only get a few HSTs a day... until December that is

PaintYourWagon · 23 Apr 2008

A poster on northernrailways notes that 406 and 414 are now painted.

P156KWJ · 23 Apr 2008

PaintYourWagon said:
A poster on northernrailways notes that 406 and 414 are now painted.

funnily enough, I saw 414 yesterday bombing along to Lincoln, shiniest I've ever seen a sprinter!
Thanks for 406, I also think 401 is in the paintshop, haven't seen it for ages, and I used to see it daily.

P156KWJ · 24 Apr 2008

156408 added. 222005 in temporary EMT livery (ex MML colours with EMT stickers on each car)

Kneedown · 25 Apr 2008

37402 said:
For 158xxx at Donny, read 159xxx.

Latest news is the 158's may NOT be going to Wabtec. Apparently another company is the preferred bidder for the work, which may be carried out at Derby.
I do hope EMT are not going to settle for shoddy workmanship in order to save a few pennies.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but havn't Wabtec a proven track record on refurbing 158's? I don't know whether or not this other firm has done any.

scb201 · 26 Apr 2008

I think if anyone has been on a SWT 158/9 they will testify to the standard of work. I know some people don't like the units, but they look like they were built and designed last year!!! An amazing refurb/refresh/rebirth!!

P156KWJ · 26 Apr 2008

Kneedown said:
Latest news is the 158's may NOT be going to Wabtec. Apparently another company is the preferred bidder for the work, which may be carried out at Derby.
I do hope EMT are not going to settle for shoddy workmanship in order to save a few pennies.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but havn't Wabtec a proven track record on refurbing 158's? I don't know whether or not this other firm has done any.

according to Rail magazine, Tim Shoveller and the team are having words with Wabtec, and want the EMT 158s to be done to a similar specification of SWT ones (bar 1st class seats, which shall not be erected) but no contract has yet been signed.

Also, 153355 has already been attacked with graffiti (presumably at Eastcroft in Nottingham?) and buffing it off has made it look like a mobile scrapheap. All the EMT branding vynils have disappeared, and it basically looks like someones chucked hydrochloric acid all over it :roll: cheap trashy vynils!

Kneedown · 27 Apr 2008

Latest news is it's a firm called "Delta" who are preferred bidders for the 158 refurbs, work to be carried out at Derby RTC.

Anyone know anything about Delta? who they are, what they do, quality of work?

I must emphasise that to the best of my knowledge nothing has been signed and sealed as yet, so Wabtec may well still get the contract.

scb201 · 28 Apr 2008

Think this might be of interest.

http://www.deltarail.com/

Also read on and saw...

"At DeltaRail we are realigning our business to better position ourselves for the new opportunities presented by the continuing growth of the railways and to meet the needs of a changing rail industry."

Kneedown · 28 Apr 2008

Hmmmm, interesting, and it looks ok on paper, but EMT will i fear be Guinea Pigs when it comes to refurbishing 158's to the standard and quality specified. It'll either be spectacular triumph, or a spectacular failure, and is such a gamble advisable when you think that the current 158 fleet is in such a shocking state? At least Wabtec have a proven track record.

Thanks for the link.

P156KWJ · 28 Apr 2008

Kneedown said:
Hmmmm, interesting, and it looks ok on paper, but EMT will i fear be Guinea Pigs when it comes to refurbishing 158's to the standard and quality specified. It'll either be spectacular triumph, or a spectacular failure, and is such a gamble advisable when you think that the current 158 fleet is in such a shocking state? At least Wabtec have a proven track record.

Thanks for the link.

the ex CT and TPX 158s need the most attention. I also think that all the super bubbles could do with a new interior.

jacknottm · 29 Apr 2008

156401 is in EMT colours as you suspected, Went through carlton bout 1720 this evening

Jack

Coxster · 30 Apr 2008

43048 (now named 'T.C.B. Miller MBE') is in EMT blue, although judging from the white at the rear of the power car it'll have white coaches.

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/NewSite POD 2008/POD30_04_08.jpg

(ta to Trower for sending that link over)

class 313 · 30 Apr 2008

Coxster said:
43048 (now named 'T.C.B. Miller MBE') is in EMT blue, although judging from the white at the rear of the power car it'll have white coaches.

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/NewSite POD 2008/POD30_04_08.jpg

(ta to Trower for sending that link over)

The coaches are indeed white, as seen on WNXX as a coach has been out for a while.

me123 · 30 Apr 2008

^Very sleek, although I'n mot sure about the white coaches... we shall see...

class 313 · 30 Apr 2008

me123 said:
^Very sleek, although I'n mot sure about the white coaches... we shall see...

http://kingbboogaloo.fotopic.net/p48822826.html

hairyhandedfool · 1 May 2008

I think the swoopy front looks smart but I do wonder about the transition to white. The use of blue rather than white is obviously because of the dirt that accumulates on these things, but it does on the coaches too. In a few weeks on service they could be very grubby looking.

jacknottm · 1 May 2008

222002 also with temporary brandings on the side

Will note down the ones i see next week when im about

Jack

me123 · 1 May 2008

class 313 said:
http://kingbboogaloo.fotopic.net/p48822826.html

As I've said elsewhere, I want to see them running together before I say anything.

jacknottm · 1 May 2008

158881 and 158882 seen heading through Leamington Spa this evening with talks of them being for EMT. When i find out i will post

P156KWJ · 1 May 2008

ah, right updated - thanks very much to all who have helped with this database. Also, those 2 you saw going through LS, are they exFGW ones off-lease? cos we're supposed to be getting a few more.

jacknottm · 1 May 2008

In South West Trains Livery. Dont know how true but 886-887 should be going back soon

Hope This helps

Jack

P156KWJ · 1 May 2008

jacknottm said:
In South West Trains Livery. Dont know how true but 886-887 should be going back soon

Hope This helps

Jack

wouldn't suprise me, as 883 and 890 went back before.

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