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Chester1

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I didn't know who Crabbe was until today, although I've seen footage of him before. I must say that, without sounding stereotypical, that he doesn't look like the kind of person who would have such outdated views on homosexuality. Dare I say I expected him to be older, although it goes without saying that there are plenty of young homophobes throughout the world.

Moving on, the "best of the bunch" would at first seem to be May and Fox. However, having a brexit supporting PM could be better because they would be more passionate about the cause of leaving the EU.

Crabb (my mistake, there is no e on the end) has links to CARE which "has in the past sponsored events calling gay and bisexual people ‘broken’ and promoting the idea of remedies to help them become ‘ex-gay’." He also voted against Same Sex Marriage.

Allot of Christians in Parliament have had links to CARE, including the Lib Dem leader Tim Farron. Nearly all (including Crabb I think) dropped any connection when they began the gay cure stuff. He voted against gay marriage but says he is now happy with the legislation. The majority of the public were against gay marriage even 10 years ago. The case for him being homophobic is weak, he is a moderately conservative christian, thats about it. I very much doubt the blue rinse brigade will have a problem with it, if he gets to the members ballot. I am in favour of gay marriage, I just don't anyone who voted against it is a homophobe.
 

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If not becoming PM; what will Boris Johnson next job be? Partychairman of the Tories?!
 

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Gove for Prime Minister. Quite why anyone would want that smarmy little git of a man as our PM is beyond me.

Honestly I'd sort of like just because how much it will annoy teachers...
(such as the one who was too busy telling his Alevel students to vote remain to actually explain any of the negatives of the EU- despite them being on the syllabus- and then coming up on the exam paper)
 

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Honestly I'd sort of like just because how much it will annoy teachers...
(such as the one who was too busy telling his Alevel students to vote remain to actually explain any of the negatives of the EU- despite them being on the syllabus- and then coming up on the exam paper)

That argument doesn't hold up I'm afraid, I assume you're not being serious!
 

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If not becoming PM; what will Boris Johnson next job be? Partychairman of the Tories?!

When the General Election is called within the next few weeks/months the backbench Member for Uxbridge will announce his standing down: cf Michael Portillo, failed to make the cut by one vote to IDS, who goes on to become Tory leader. Portillo, having been parachuted in to the safe Tory Kensington and Chelsea seat so that he could fight for the leadership, steps down afterwards never to take further office with the Tories. Makes a very good living in the media instead, which is probably the direction Johnson will go in, given that with circuses virtually non-existent now there is no demand for clowns.
 

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Michael Gove said:
Whatever charisma is I don’t have it

The Spectator- full text of Gove's speech.

This has to be one of the strangest political moves I've seen. Here's a man who has spent his career avoiding the possibility of leadership, standing on a platform of essentially "I know not the best person for the job, but I try hard".
 

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Gove exudes as much charisma as a dead fish...<(

should be fine in the Conservative Party then ;)
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When the General Election is called within the next few weeks/months the backbench Member for Uxbridge will announce his standing down: cf Michael Portillo, failed to make the cut by one vote to IDS, who goes on to become Tory leader. Portillo, having been parachuted in to the safe Tory Kensington and Chelsea seat so that he could fight for the leadership, steps down afterwards never to take further office with the Tories. Makes a very good living in the media instead, which is probably the direction Johnson will go in, given that with circuses virtually non-existent now there is no demand for clowns.

Is it even possible for the PM to call an election now?
 

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should be fine in the Conservative Party then ;)
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Is it even possible for the PM to call an election now?

I don't think it is possible for the PM to call an election as the Fixed Term Parliament Act prevents it. Hypothetically, a vote of no confidence might do the trick under normal circumstances. If the Labour Party wasn't such a shambles such a vote might stand a chance. And I did wonder what would be the position if someone wanted to start a petition to that effect and it got more than 100,000 signatures thus requiring a debate.
 
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Is it even possible for the PM to call an election now?

Only if a motion passes the House of Commons with the backing 2/3s of all the seats (so including any vacant seats) calling for an early election or if a motion of no confidence in the Government is passed and not rescinded within 14 days.
 

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This has to be one of the strangest political moves I've seen. Here's a man who has spent his career avoiding the possibility of leadership, standing on a platform of essentially "I know not the best person for the job, but I try hard".

It's either false modesty or he's trying to clear the path for Theresa May.

jcollins said:
Wouldn't it be possible to amend the Fixed Parliament Act if 51% of MPs back it?

Theoretically.
 

me123

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It's either false modesty or he's trying to clear the path for Theresa May.

I wonder if he's essentially been forced to stand. All the other serious leave campaigners have gone into hiding, and he's the only one running. I suspect that he feels he needs to run, but isn't quite committed to it. That said, he's also spurred on Leadsom's campaign by being just generally weak.

The whole situation at the moment is decidedly bizarre.
 

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I was thinking of voting on an amendment that allows them to call an election if a party leader changes without getting 66% support.

Or an amendment that parliament must dissolve if there's a new prime minister and there hasn't been an election in the previous 12 months.
 
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Only if a motion passes the House of Commons with the backing 2/3s of all the seats (so including any vacant seats) calling for an early election or if a motion of no confidence in the Government is passed and not rescinded within 14 days.

For what it is worth, I don't believe that there will be a General Election before 2020, (Gove and May have both ruled it out, but who can trust a Tory these days). No chance of Labour MP's backing an early election given the state they are in and a new PM would have to engineer a vote of no confidence in their government and deliberately lose.

I was thinking of voting on an amendment that allows them to call an election if a party leader changes without getting 66% support.

Would the Lords back such an amendment though?

Also an early enteral election would add another level of uncertainty when the government should be focusing on Brexit negotiations and further delay the triggering of Article 50.
 

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A woman with a strong sense of purpose to lead the Conservative Party.

Now where I have heard of that before?

Hopefully, she won't wreck communities, destroy livelihoods, and irreparably damage lives (causing tons of suicides) like the last one did...
 

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Lets hope she really means it this time when she's not going to take us out of the ECHR and join Belarus and Khazakstan. Unlike a couple of years ago when she said she was.
 

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Hopefully, she won't wreck communities, destroy livelihoods, and irreparably damage lives (causing tons of suicides) like the last one did...

Considering you were not even on the planet when she was prime minister that is a pretty harsh assessment. :|

For a little balance perhaps you could see beyond that myopic diatribe and mention some of the positive aspects of her premiership.
 

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Considering you were not even on the planet when she was prime minister that is a pretty harsh assessment. :|

For a little balance perhaps you could see beyond that myopic diatribe and mention some of the positive aspects of her premiership.

OK then.






Erm...





...diversity? :roll:
 
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