What's Michael doing at 16:00?
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Might as well make one of the redundant 319s PM, opposed to Gove
Or, dare I say it, 442s?
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What's Michael doing at 16:00?
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Or, dare I say it, 442s?
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northwichcat
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Gove has said he's standing because he feels Boris isn't capable of leading the country.
That's quite an indictment, particularly considering he doesn't see himself as capable of leading the country.
Allot of Christians in Parliament have had links to CARE, including the Lib Dem leader Tim Farron. Nearly all (including Crabb I think) dropped any connection when they began the gay cure stuff. He voted against gay marriage but says he is now happy with the legislation. The majority of the public were against gay marriage even 10 years ago. The case for him being homophobic is weak, he is a moderately conservative christian, thats about it. I very much doubt the blue rinse brigade will have a problem with it, if he gets to the members ballot. I am in favour of gay marriage, I just don't anyone who voted against it is a homophobe.
Xenophon PCDGS
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You have used the word "allot" in your posting in a way that I have never see in print before. How many were allotted?
Harbornite
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He means "a lot".
Qwerty133
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Honestly I'd sort of like just because how much it will annoy teachers...
(such as the one who was too busy telling his Alevel students to vote remain to actually explain any of the negatives of the EU- despite them being on the syllabus- and then coming up on the exam paper)
Harbornite
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That argument doesn't hold up I'm afraid, I assume you're not being serious!
Busaholic
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When the General Election is called within the next few weeks/months the backbench Member for Uxbridge will announce his standing down: cf Michael Portillo, failed to make the cut by one vote to IDS, who goes on to become Tory leader. Portillo, having been parachuted in to the safe Tory Kensington and Chelsea seat so that he could fight for the leadership, steps down afterwards never to take further office with the Tories. Makes a very good living in the media instead, which is probably the direction Johnson will go in, given that with circuses virtually non-existent now there is no demand for clowns.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Gove exudes as much charisma as a dead fish...
ExRes
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Gove exudes as much charisma as a dead fish...
Aaah yes, I knew there was something of Gordon Brown about him .......
Qwerty133
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Not completely serious but of course a small part of me wants it to happen, as having to listen to one sided propaganda instead of the actual syllabus for a number of weeks is really annoying.
Busaholic
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Gove exudes as much charisma as a dead fish...
On behalf of the Dead Fish Preservation Society, I take umbrage at the comparison.
Michael Gove said:
The Spectator- full text of Gove's speech.
This has to be one of the strangest political moves I've seen. Here's a man who has spent his career avoiding the possibility of leadership, standing on a platform of essentially "I know not the best person for the job, but I try hard".
DarloRich
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Gove exudes as much charisma as a dead fish...
should be fine in the Conservative Party then
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Is it even possible for the PM to call an election now?
Andyjs247
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should be fine in the Conservative Party then
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Is it even possible for the PM to call an election now?
I don't think it is possible for the PM to call an election as the Fixed Term Parliament Act prevents it. Hypothetically, a vote of no confidence might do the trick under normal circumstances. If the Labour Party wasn't such a shambles such a vote might stand a chance. And I did wonder what would be the position if someone wanted to start a petition to that effect and it got more than 100,000 signatures thus requiring a debate.
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Only if a motion passes the House of Commons with the backing 2/3s of all the seats (so including any vacant seats) calling for an early election or if a motion of no confidence in the Government is passed and not rescinded within 14 days.
northwichcat
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Wouldn't it be possible to amend the Fixed Parliament Act if 51% of MPs back it?
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Tetchytyke
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It's either false modesty or he's trying to clear the path for Theresa May.
jcollins said:
Theoretically.
northwichcat
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Or would some of them want to change it to 60% or 75%?
I was thinking of voting on an amendment that allows them to call an election if a party leader changes without getting 66% support.
I wonder if he's essentially been forced to stand. All the other serious leave campaigners have gone into hiding, and he's the only one running. I suspect that he feels he needs to run, but isn't quite committed to it. That said, he's also spurred on Leadsom's campaign by being just generally weak.
The whole situation at the moment is decidedly bizarre.
Or an amendment that parliament must dissolve if there's a new prime minister and there hasn't been an election in the previous 12 months.
Xenophon PCDGS
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A woman with a strong sense of purpose to lead the Conservative Party.
Now where I have heard of that before...
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For what it is worth, I don't believe that there will be a General Election before 2020, (Gove and May have both ruled it out, but who can trust a Tory these days). No chance of Labour MP's backing an early election given the state they are in and a new PM would have to engineer a vote of no confidence in their government and deliberately lose.
Would the Lords back such an amendment though?
Also an early enteral election would add another level of uncertainty when the government should be focusing on Brexit negotiations and further delay the triggering of Article 50.
backontrack
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Hopefully, she won't wreck communities, destroy livelihoods, and irreparably damage lives (causing tons of suicides) like the last one did...
Butts
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Considering you were not even on the planet when she was prime minister that is a pretty harsh assessment.
For a little balance perhaps you could see beyond that myopic diatribe and mention some of the positive aspects of her premiership.
backontrack
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Considering you were not even on the planet when she was prime minister that is a pretty harsh assessment.
For a little balance perhaps you could see beyond that myopic diatribe and mention some of the positive aspects of her premiership.
OK then.
Erm...
...diversity? :roll:
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