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ExRes
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I believe they are, along with Labour supporters and Tory haters in general
backontrack
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And so are you.
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Ed Vaizey and Anna Soubry ousted now.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-next-round-of-theresa-may-ruthless-reshuffle
Butts
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Ah well that's just about the end of this thread....
Perhaps we should have another one about who will be the next Labour Prime Minister ?
Perhaps we should have another one about who will be the next Labour Prime Minister ?
There will never be another Labour PM.
The party will split, and the more credible, moderate faction will - if they know what's good for them - drop Labour from their title. The whole brand is tainted (and what does "Labour" really mean in 2016, anyway?).
Howardh
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What would a different Labour party be called? The New Democrats?
Who knows?
Reform Party?
Social Democrats? (Mark 2
)The Progressive Party?
What's clear to me (but perhaps not to others), is that Labour don't know who they stand for any more, as the traditional working-class has been eviscerated by social change. The middle class is larger than ever.
northwichcat
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Another new appointment today - Philip Hammond has appointed a new cat for the Treasury - a plain black one: https://twitter.com/PHammondMP/status/758977037340028928
He'll have to learn to stand his ground round there. Apparently Humphrey (from no 10) has already been scrapping with Palmerston (from the FO).
Butts
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Wonder how he will get on with Larry and Palmerston ?
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Who knows?
Reform Party?
Social Democrats? (Mark 2
The Progressive Party?
What's clear to me (but perhaps not to others), is that Labour don't know who they stand for any more, as the traditional working-class has been eviscerated by social change. The middle class is larger than ever.
Bob Marshalls-Andrew, former Labour MP very much on the left of his party, but always his own man, says there should be a new Common Ground party with those elements of Greens and LibDems plus non-aligned previously. In case you don't know the name, look him up: he was always the most scathing MP about Tony Blair in public and private but matched his rhetoric with actions. If you watch Robin Cook's resignation speech in the Commons he is sitting in the row behind Cook, to the right. Corbyn is to the left of him(!) but there is some distance between them, metaphorically as well. He was intelligently opinionated and, perhaps importantly, never had nor sought trade union backing. Quite a wit too; if he's backing the idea, I'm seriously looking at it.
On 'Any Questions' tonight Oliver Letwin, responding to a question from the audience, reminded everyone that the same question was being asked of the Tories for years after 1997- will they ever govern again? Memories are short.
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Mercedes Beyonce Al-Hamdani 2060!
cjmillsnun
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They said that about the Tories in '97.
It took them 3 full terms, but (admittedly supported by the Lib Dems) Cameron became PM in 2010.
Labour have been in the wilderness before.
I suspect that there will be a split, and it will be a big split, but if it doesn't happen, don't write Labour off completely.
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