TRIVIA - Non-terminal stations where every passenger train stops

[61653 HTAFC]

Services on diversion/TPE route knowledge refreshers notwithstanding, I submit Brighouse.

Do the GC services that skip PonteCarlo all run via Hare Park or do they sometimes run the "normal" route? If the former, then Monkhill qualifies ever since the Wakefield Northern service was extended to Knottingley.

 

[b0b]

Argyle Street?

Also Rutherglen seems like a possibility too
+Anderston
+Hamilton Central

 

[Intercity 225]

Every station on The Robin Hood Line with the exception of Bulwell and Newstead.

 

[Kite159]

Argyle Street?

Also Rutherglen seems like a possibility too
+Anderston
+Hamilton Central

Early morning Sunday services skip Argyle Street, Anderston, I.e.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G15393/2016/12/04/advanced

 

[Gathursty]

My original definition of termini was end of lines like Great Yarmouth and London Euston since places like Preston and Manchester Piccadilly still have through services as well as bay platforms.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Stirling, Perth, Dundee

All of which are majority through stations, but each have bays and regular terminating services daily.

Edinburgh Haymarket is one as well

1541 and 1641 Glasgow Queen St-Aberdeen miss Stirling. The odd XC and various Sleeper services also miss Haymarket.

 

[Clansman]

1541 and 1641 Glasgow Queen St-Aberdeen miss Stirling. The odd XC and various Sleeper services also miss Haymarket.

Apologies. Completely bypassed me that Stirling has the peak non-stopper and Haymarket with the sleeper

Further additions;


Georgemas Junction
Muir Of Ord
Forres*
Huntly*
Keith*
Leuchars*
Aviemore
Kingussie
Pitlochry

*Diverted sleeper services may run non stop

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Just out of interest, what's the linespeed through Coventry for non-stopping trains? Cheers.

80 on the up fast (platform 2) and 75 on the down fast (platform 3)
It's 50 up and 25 down on the slow lines (platforms 1 & 4 respectively)

 

[Thebaz]

Pretty sure that there are no longer planned fast services between Sutton and West Croydon. So Carshalton Beeches, Wallington, Waddon. Although there used to be a morning London Bridge train that skipped Waddon, I think it calls there now. You could include West Croydon depending on terms of reference for 'termini'.

I tried to consult the timetables but Southern have taken them all down for some reason. Can't think why!
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Also no longer any planned fast services between Oxted and East Grinstead = Hurst Green, Lingfield, Dormans

 

[imagination]

Aviemore
Kingussie
Pitlochry

Already posted those on page 5.

 

[class303]

Inverkip, Branchton, Drumfrochar, Whinhill?

Fort Matilda, Greenock West, Greenock Central, Port Glasgow. *

IBM is not one as the 16.33 Glasgow to Wemyss Bay skips it. Never has done and I have never understood why. One train a day in one direction misses it.


*when the tall ships was on in Greenock in 2011 I took a rare special - Gourock to Glasgow Central, 1st stop Bogston.

 

[tsr]

Also no longer any planned fast services between Oxted and East Grinstead = Hurst Green, Lingfield, Dormans

East Grinstead - Oxted can be done non-stop on 1L13 2254 East Grinstead - London Victoria (SuX) and Hurst Green is also skipped by 1E04 0516 Uckfield-London Bridge (weekdays).

Yes, yes, I know, it's a bit weird. I've never quite worked out why the first Up service from Uckfield skips Hurst Green, in particular - and for that matter Ashurst and Hever. But it does. Actually, the second Up service also skips Ashurst and Hever, but calls at Hurst Green. And both still call at Cowden, which whilst it has 5-10 passengers boarding per train, isn't exactly any busier than the rest!

It should also be noted that in the event of planned engineering blockades completely closing the direct BML route between London and Gatwick Airport, trains sometimes run from London Bridge or Victoria to East Grinstead via Clapham Junction and East Croydon only.

(In these scenarios, replacement buses connect with the trains at East Grinstead for both Gatwick Airport and Three Bridges. Unfortunately this is what happens when you close rather useful railway lines between large towns... cough...)

 

[duffield]

As the original poster has now clarified (only 'true' terminus stations are excluded), I'll add Nottingham - all passing passenger services stop here.

 

[kieron]

My original definition of termini was end of lines like Great Yarmouth and London Euston since places like Preston and Manchester Piccadilly still have through services as well as bay platforms.

Where does that leave stations which aren't at the end of a line but have no through services anyway, like Ellesmere Port?

 

[Gathursty]

Where does that leave stations which aren't at the end of a line but have no through services anyway, like Ellesmere Port?

As both lines come to an end at the station and it is not like Bere Alston, then Ellesmere Port, Kirkby, Southport and Ormskirk are also termini.

 

[otter11]

Bradford-on-Avon I believe...

 

[91103eastcoast]

Selby? Can't think of any non-stop passenger trains.

 

[Bevan Price]

As both lines come to an end at the station and it is not like Bere Alston, then Ellesmere Port, Kirkby, Southport and Ormskirk are also termini.

Unlike Kirkby & Ormskirk, there are no buffer stops to prevent through running at Ellesmere Port.

Although it has not happened for many years, Helsby - Hooton (reverse) - Chester was once an occasional diversionary route for passenger services.

 

[Gathursty]

Unlike Kirkby & Ormskirk, there are no buffer stops to prevent through running at Ellesmere Port.

Although it has not happened for many years, Helsby - Hooton (reverse) - Chester was once an occasional diversionary route for passenger services.

I was unaware of that at E Port. How come E Port is unlike Kirkby and Ormskirk for the buffer stop situation?

 

[kieron]

I was unaware of that at E Port. How come E Port is unlike Kirkby and Ormskirk for the buffer stop situation?

According to Wikipedia, there was quite a lot of freight in the area when the line to Hooton was first electrified. I don't know if any freight trains go through Ellesmere Port now, but there are freight branches either side of the station.

It has also been used by the odd railtour.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Ellesmere Port was also electrified much later than the others, so perhaps lessons had been learned by the late 80s/early 90s?

 

[Kite159]

Bradford-on-Avon I believe...

Early Saturday morning Bristol towards Plymouth XC skips as it is sent that way for route knowledge:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C70006/2016/12/10/advanced

 

[otter11]

Early Saturday morning Bristol towards Plymouth XC skips as it is sent that way for route knowledge:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C70006/2016/12/10/advanced

Ah, I was looking at dates in January - perhaps this service has been removed from the new timetable?

 

[Thebaz]

East Grinstead - Oxted can be done non-stop on 1L13 2254 East Grinstead - London Victoria (SuX) and Hurst Green is also skipped by 1E04 0516 Uckfield-London Bridge (weekdays).

Yes, yes, I know, it's a bit weird. I've never quite worked out why the first Up service from Uckfield skips Hurst Green, in particular - and for that matter Ashurst and Hever. But it does. Actually, the second Up service also skips Ashurst and Hever, but calls at Hurst Green. And both still call at Cowden, which whilst it has 5-10 passengers boarding per train, isn't exactly any busier than the rest!

It should also be noted that in the event of planned engineering blockades completely closing the direct BML route between London and Gatwick Airport, trains sometimes run from London Bridge or Victoria to East Grinstead via Clapham Junction and East Croydon only.

(In these scenarios, replacement buses connect with the trains at East Grinstead for both Gatwick Airport and Three Bridges. Unfortunately this is what happens when you close rather useful railway lines between large towns... cough...)

I guess I would have seen that if Southern hadn't taken the timetables down! I'm aware of the occasional diverted non-stop services, but I thought we were only talking about the "regular" service patterns. Perhaps not, this thread seems to have developed on a few different tangents now

 

[Kite159]

Ah, I was looking at dates in January - perhaps this service has been removed from the new timetable?

I checked that as well, on the day I checked it looked like timing points for some of the stations on route ie:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P30308/2017/01/14/advanced

 

[louis97]

I checked that as well, on the day I checked it looked like timing points for some of the stations on route ie:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P30308/2017/01/14/advanced

These are the timing points the train is 'timed' at. RTT adds every intermediate timing point the day before a service runs. Therefore when you look at trains at a locations further than a day ahead they will only show the services that are timed at that location and not everything that passes through. The best way to find everything on a route in advanced is to look at a mandatory timing point nearby.

 

[otter11]

I checked that as well, on the day I checked it looked like timing points for some of the stations on route ie:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P30308/2017/01/14/advanced

Ah yes good point, that must have been why I missed it.

 

[Liam]

Leuchars*

Not quite, 0453 Inverness-Edinburgh via Aberdeen and the 0930 Edinburgh-Aberdeen don't stop. All the stations between Nairn and Aberdeen will qualify though.

I think every station between Kilmarnock and Gretna qualify, as do the stations South of Ayr towards Stranraer.

Fife Circle between Rosyth and Glenrothes.

 

[bradders1983]

Georgemas Junction and Muir of Ord already mentioned but plenty of other stations on the Far North Line are not request stops that have every service stopping. Forsinard, Brora and Helmsdale being three off the top of my head, none of these have terminating services either.

 

[Sean Emmett]

Too many to mention surely?
In Bristol most stops on Severn Beach line except St Andrews Rd.
On the Waterloo Reading line then Richmond, Twickenham, Feltham, Staines, Egham, Sunningdale, Ascot and Bracknell spring to mind.
But the odd train misses Virginia Water and Martins Heron.