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Xenophon PCDGS
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Is this the same company as Checkmate Transport, based in Mossley?
Xenophon PCDGS
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The TfGM website has full details on the three amended Metroshuttle free bus routes that will come into effect on 13th November.
Josie
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Some interesting choices. The 1 mostly keeps its current route. The 3 starts running all day on a route similar to the original 1 (Piccadilly to Spinningfields via King St). And the 2 starts from Piccadilly for the first time, running to Oxford Road station via Victoria and the full length of Deansgate, returning via Peter Street and then the reverse of its route back to Piccadilly.
Which means there are now Metroshuttle buses in both directions between Piccadilly and Victoria, again for the first time.
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Which means there are now Metroshuttle buses in both directions between Piccadilly and Victoria, again for the first time.
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WatcherZero
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Yes, will be further route modifications post Christmas.
£1 flat fare from Manchester as far as the golf club on Palatine Road (stop before Northenden) then staged beyond. Northenden to Sale cost me £1.50 today - I was on my old stomping grounds.
The bizarre thing is that there are now 12 buses an hour from Northenden to Sale, a ten-minute service on the First 41 and a ten minute service on the new MagicBus 143. This is four times the frequency which GMT used to offer in the good old days and is basically a privatised exercise in trying to run the competition off the road rather than responding to genuine customer need - in the evening there is a severe disinterest in running anything at all on this corridor, with only an hourly service.
A prime example of why a city like Manchester needs a PTE with power to regulate frequencies and operators on ALL services and only allow a company to tender who can met the requirement to provide an adequate off-peak service (suggest at least 50% of the main day time frequency).
BurtonM
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Yep, that's exactly why the £1 rates are still going. First put it in at the time of the Finglands buyout to establish themselves, and a very short race to the bottom started when Stagecoach matched it, IIRC it was initially all Stagey buses to Didsbury but later (when the '13-'14 academic year ended - the original planned end date, if memory serves), only the Magics. Problem is the £1 fares have created a Mexican standoff now, and that introductory limited time offer has been running for two and a half years now - it didn't take long for the offer expiry caveats to disappear, and no end is in sight. Because frankly, there can't be - put the prices up and people will complain, defect, buy bicycles etc.
As an aside, I miss the Kenyan Dennises.
As an aside, I miss the Kenyan Dennises.
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northwichcat
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Now then where have I heard that name before..
This:
And also before my time, this:
Seemingly a frequently used brand in Manchester
(Not my photos all credit to the author where due)
Sam
What the new Little Gem buses look like: https://www.facebook.com/littlegembus/photos/pcb.338052296565579/338052066565602/?type=3&theater
Xenophon PCDGS
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I visited the land of the TfGM empire this week and saw that Stagecoach had produced a folded leaflet on service changes affecting the Stockport area from Sunday, 29th January, with a Stockport area map on the reverse.
I looked at the TfGM website in the "Changes to your bus services" section but none of these are yet posted on there, even though the information would have been with them.
I looked at the TfGM website in the "Changes to your bus services" section but none of these are yet posted on there, even though the information would have been with them.
PermitToTravel
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The changes are detailed on Stagecoach's website here. Quite a few changes and cuts to routes!
Xenophon PCDGS
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Perhaps I may have missed something here, but the service 368 (Stockport bus station to Wythenshawe Interchange) is mentioned but I cannot seem to trace the changes due to be made.
There's going to be minor changes to times Monday - Friday daytime, Saturday and Sunday all day, which shouldn't be corresponding to any cut in frequency.
Xenophon PCDGS
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The full list of all the changes due to come into effect from 29th January are now shown on the TfGM website.
The description of the changes to route 268 seem to make no sense - there isn't any way, as far as I am aware, that Stretford can be omitted from the route, and it still carry on to serve Trafford Bar
I can see the newly introduced route 16 from North Manchester General Hospital to Rochdale failing very quickly, although it is a journey that there is potential demand for, I can't see people flocking to it if it only runs every 2 hours.
I can see the newly introduced route 16 from North Manchester General Hospital to Rochdale failing very quickly, although it is a journey that there is potential demand for, I can't see people flocking to it if it only runs every 2 hours.
The service 16 would have been one that could have been quite useful for me however it's low frequency and the fact that it goes via Harpurhey rather that Bowker Vale means that it would end up being better to get the 17 and changing at Middleton onto the 59.
Sam
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The 268 has never gone to Trafford Bar though - at the moment it goes from Stretford, through Lostock and a loop round Trafford General Hospital, Urmston and back to Lostock.
northwichcat
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Stagecoach Manchester single fares are to increase by an average of 10% from 2nd April. Magic Bus single fares will increase by 50%. The day ticket price is to increase to £4.30 and the weekly ticket is to increase to £14.50, with the 4 weekly ticket increasing to £56. Also smart cards will incur a 50p activation fee on their first use.
northwichcat
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I can see Magic Bus disappearing soon from Manchester with there being less competition than when Magic Bus was first set up and the low fares not really being viable anymore. Arriva Merseyside's single fares are currently more than double what Magic Bus Manchester's single fares are!
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Certainly Magic Bus fares looked a bargain compared to First fares, which in my opinion are extortionate.
Sam
The 50p activation fee for smart cards seems a way not to encourage people to use new technology
BurtonM
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Does this mean the days of £1 Manchester-Didsbury are over, after three years?
PermitToTravel
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If First have any sense they'll carry on charging £1
First still offer £1 on their 41 and 42 routes.
It is madness that they are still going through with this little price war that they are having with Stagecoach. I wonder if they are making money on their South Manchester division, certainly peeves me off that they are charging £1 in South Manchester however North Manchester they charge mad prices.
Sam
Xenophon PCDGS
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How many Magic Bus liveried buses are in the Stagecoach fleet at the present time?
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