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How do you tell your girlfreind your a train enthusiast?

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anthony263

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One of my freinds at university today was asking me this , which i couldnt really answer.

My current Girlfreind doesnt really mind me being a train enthusiast since she likes to collect and watch anime and she likes lorries. I only told her after we started going out plus she didnt tell me til around the same time anyway.

She has come with me when i have gone train spotting in London and she does regulary go to transport rallies mostly so she can go lorry spotting which i am always happy to tag along.

what is everyone else opinion or advice on this matter?
 
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How about unsubtle hinting? :p

Like having the background on the computer as a collage of various pics of trains. or something like that.

...so screaming out "WHOOO WHOOOOOOOO" like a steam engine when youre about to have sex with her isnt recommended?
 

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Yes, I'd say it is! :lol:

Or constantly making railway references when in intimate situations.

Or making innuendoes references to coupling, buffers, entering tunnels, assistance from the rear and tender behinds. On a different note, if the relationship has a future then it shouldn't matter how the subject is broached. If it does matter it's saved you a lot of wasted time. You should be loved for who you are not what you do
 

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You shouldn't have to make it a big revelation, so don't make a big thing of it. Don't sit her down and tell her as if it's a major event; it's not the same as having a child or AIDS or anything.

If you feel like you can't be open about being a rail enthusiast, maybe you should question whether the relationship's going in the right direction.
 

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The guy I'm with just now kinda worked it out when I disappeared off to Waverley for a couple of hours and then reappeared triumphantly with pics of the first railtour I'd ever seen :lol:
 

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I'm still waiting for me to someone to prove what the difference is between interested in cars, planes, boats or motorbikes. All the same thing, essentially.

One advantage of getting older, is one gives less of a stuff what other people think anyway, especially the shallow media driven crap.

Though I agree people are so pig ignorant about railways, very few of them know why Britain is at the centre of a world map or what the original name of Manchester United was...

If she's that shallow and knocks you back for your interests, you really are in trouble anyway. Course you don't talk about trains with ladies, but one should have one's own life as well as together.
 

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I'm still waiting for me to someone to prove what the difference is between interested in cars, planes, boats or motorbikes. All the same thing, essentially.

When people think rail enthusiast, they think "trainspotter" and they think of this:
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People think car enthusiast, they think of fast cars and they think of this:
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The comparison in the media is between the image of a typical anorak and that of someone who looks successful and "cool". Which one of those would you rather be? I know my answer, and it ain't the first one!

That said, it's a completely wrong stereotype. I know plenty of car enthusiasts who are anoraks, and plenty of rail enthusiasts who are anything but anoraks.

I also think there's a bit of rail enthusiast in everyone. There's something about going on a train that brings out the child in you. I know plenty of non rail enthusiasts who nonetheless enjoy a ride on the train; doesn't mean they go bashing, but they enjoy their travels. Whereas people travelling by car, especially nowadays, either love or aren't that bothered.
 

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At the moment my current Girlfreind doesnt really mind me disapearing at 3am in the morning to go galavanting somewhere by train, since she does do it when she goes to these anime conferences or she always playing lorrry spotting when u take her out in the car..

she is hapy to tag along sometimes with me when i go on my travels especially since i suppose she does get something out of it.

and unlike my ex girlfreind she isnt always on your back about wanting quality time ( I will leave that bit to your imaginations all i will tell u is this her new boyfreind who i used to work with and still have the occasional drink with says she is very hard to keep under control)
 

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When people think rail enthusiast, they think "trainspotter" and they think of this:
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People think car enthusiast, they think of fast cars and they think of this:
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The comparison in the media is between the image of a typical anorak and that of someone who looks successful and "cool". Which one of those would you rather be? I know my answer, and it ain't the first one!

That said, it's a completely wrong stereotype. I know plenty of car enthusiasts who are anoraks, and plenty of rail enthusiasts who are anything but anoraks.

I also think there's a bit of rail enthusiast in everyone. There's something about going on a train that brings out the child in you. I know plenty of non rail enthusiasts who nonetheless enjoy a ride on the train; doesn't mean they go bashing, but they enjoy their travels. Whereas people travelling by car, especially nowadays, either love or aren't that bothered.

Ah so its all down to materialism and wanting to go everywhere on your own? Oh well that explains the sad society we have become. And what about the great majority of enthusiasts that don't stand on stations collecting numbers, including those with highly successful careers in business, media, music and politics? The vice president of the most powerful nation on earth is a rail enthusiast, clearly he obviously fits into person 1.

Of course I'm being disingenuous, but perhaps stereotypes need to be challenged sometimes? It seems to me rail enthusiasts need to stick up for themselves like car enthusiasts do on Top gear. Oh course the other irony is many of us are both. So I ask again, what is the difference? The fact is, there is none. Engineering, is engineering (the bottom line is whatever form of transport you like, that's what you are in interested in) and if you don't know what railway engineering has contributed to the world, and especially to this country, you have no business being an enthusiast.
 
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I have an interest in anything with an engine. Cars, planes, trains, bikes - you name it! That certainly makes it easier to introduce the idea! I have always found having an interest in everything is easier than having an interest in purely trains.

I always find it difficult to explain the interest in trains. Cars and bikes are about the thrill and adrenaline; boats (assuming you are not rowing it) are about lifestyle and glamour; planes are about majesty and poetry; trains? Sorry, stuck.

I am single now, but my last girlfriend did not have a problem with any of my enthusiasms. By the time we broke up, I think she thought I was more bothered with my interests and friends and playing football instead of her. At that time, I think I probably was, to be honest! Remember, a train does not argue with you. She did enjoy playing with my model trains though, and was especially fond of my Virgin HST. I bought a Voyager so she had a choice, but she didn't like it (sound familiar?).

Having said all that, I think it is important to know a couple of her quirks just in case she does say something! Also, ensure that your interests do not get in the way of your relationship and make sure you are taking a keen interest in her hobbies too! That way, she might be more receptive when you tell her about your rail enthusiasm!

Me123 got it absolutely spot on with the image thing. Have you ever been to a rail event?! All you see are older men with large bellies, beige jackets, scruffy hair and an attitude problem. Having said that, I have been to a number of car exhibitions that were very similar - the Capri owners club springs to mind......
 

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I always find it difficult to explain the interest in trains. Cars and bikes are about the thrill and adrenaline; boats (assuming you are not rowing it) are about lifestyle and glamour; planes are about majesty and poetry; trains? Sorry, stuck.
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If railways were than uninspiring the NRM wouldn't be so popular, nor would they be the subject of so many films or books http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7964314.stm
 
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I would think a girlfriend or wife would prefer a battered up car or motorbike to restore in the garage than a Deltic or Steam Train equivalent which may take up a bit too much room :D
 

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Ryanair is about majesty and poetry, and mass produced cars driven on congested roads full of ANPR cameras is a thrill...right? There is twinkles and highlights plus hum-drum in the aviation and automotive worlds, but so are there in railways.

The Orient express, the Blue train, the Flying Scotsman, 16,000hp 200mph Eurostars, stations with amazing architecture like Milan, New York Grand central, St Pancras, 450 tons of express train blasting past at two miles a minute is a lot more impressive than any car, freight trains with 50,000 tons, amazingly scenic lines with lofty viaducts, deep tunnels, or running by the coast or high in the mountains.

And how about how the railways changed the world: Standard time (GMT), suburbs, trade unions, Fish and Chips, Football league, a significant driver of the industrial revolution and held together the British Empire, the London underground - the first corporate design, the making of America.

Go off, learn your history, go and have a look at the railway posters, especially of the 20s and 30s and tell me there is no romance. You may see gill sans in many of them, so often used today, designed for the London and Northern Eastern Railway.

I'd also recommend those interested in modern trains look at steam, or at least understand the history. The railway age lasted 100 years (aprox 1850-1950), twice as long as the car has been dominant, you miss a lot if not. The railways are still important now to large cities (which is where most of humanity now live) and the formation of the European high speed network.

Can't say I'm surprised to have been the victim of one of Metroland's attacks here.

I agree that watching a train thunder by at top whack is an impressive sight. I also think some of the noises you hear are fabulous.

However, you have to understand the context of what is being said here. The question is this: "how do you tell your girlfriend you are interested in trains?" This assumes that the girlfriend in question has no interest whatsoever. Most of what you have said is very true, but also very boring to most people. It is the same with anything. I know a lot about cars but would never drone on about the history and statistics etc to someone who wasn't that bothered. If a girl said "why do you like cars?", I would say "jump in and you'll find out!" I wouldn't go on about mass production and DSG technology!

I have tried to simplify the process of telling someone about your interest. Using specific examples such as Ryanair is irrelevant - it is about the majesty of the plane soaring into the sky. If you are going to mention Ryanair, I think you should be more accurate with your criticism. You say railways changed the world. So did budget airlines. Railways brought the prospect of travel to the masses, allowing them to vacation, to move away from the city; budget airlines brought air travel to the masses with the very same prospects.

You suggest that driving a car on a congested road full of cameras is no fun. Maybe so. But neither is sitting on a train in the middle of nowhere at a standstill because someone has removed themselves from the gene pool in front of it.

We are talking about summarising, in one short sentence, why you have that interest. I have merely stated that there is no short answer that I can find to explain my interest in trains without sounding like a bit of a tit. And, though I find interest and agree with much of what you have said, it makes us sound just a little bit sad and boring!

My main point is, it is easy to quickly explain an interest in Planes, Cars, Bikes, Boats to someone who isn't bothered. It is not as easy to explain trains. Hence the OP and his friend.

One other thing - Please don't question my knowledge of the history of the railway in such a patronising way. My knowledge of the railways is generally very good - past and present. I may not be able to recall specific dates (unlike motorsport and football which is my real bread and butter!) but most of the information is there. I am one of those modern enthusiasts that you speak of but one of my specific points of interest is in how, going forward, we can learn from the mistakes made by our Victorian ancestors and how we can overcome said mistakes to build a railway that will last long into the future.
 

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Your a victim, as you put it, because its emotive crap. How on earth can you come onto an enthusiasts forum and say, well, there's nothing really interesting about railways, I have trouble thinking.
 
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...so screaming out "WHOOO WHOOOOOOOO" like a steam engine when youre about to have sex with her isnt recommended?

Well, making "Fssshhhhttt te kofff" sounds like Ivor the Engine is always an option, but then again you might have to be in the top left hand corner of Wales for that to work, you never know...
 

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You a victim, as you put it, because its emotive crap. How on earth can you come onto an enthusiasts forum and say, well, there's nothing really interesting about railways, I have trouble thinking. Sorry, you asked for it. What do you want us to do, all agree, and log off? So other people don't find trains thrilling, big deal. I don't find championship knitting thrilling. There are people here that will find one form of public transport (say a bus or plane) more exciting than a train, and vice versa. there will be people that think modern is better than steam. Whatever floats your boat, and they'll be a few people that like those better to!

I never said there was nothing interesting about railways. I merely said I found it harder to explain my interest in railways to other people than I do other things. It is fundamentally an interest that is seen as being a bit on the dull and sad side (whether we like it or not) and telling people about it is generally more difficult than telling them about something else.

The point is, that's YOUR view, and you cannot put it in a killer sentence and expect everyone to agree.....

I don't expect everyone to agree! As for MY view, is that not what the OP asked for? As someone who has a bit of experience here, I thought MY view would be just as valid and thought provoking as everyone elses. Personally, I make sure I know someone quite well before they find out about some of my interests that might be seen as more 'quirky' such as the railway.

But you are right, if you want to persuade someone (especially females) about something they are fundamentally not interested in, you will probably fail.

Exactly - everything my initial post was saying.

And I wasn't suggesting you do that, I was objecting to what you wrote. But, the answer is don't 'go on about it',

Firstly, how can you object to me giving the OP my opinion when it is based on the fact that the subject can be difficult to talk about - especially when it comes to dealing with relationships. Secondly, you will find that my previous post said exactly that "do not let interest get in the way of the relationship" "not droning on about history" etc.

if they don't accept who you are may I suggest they have mental problems with accepting other people are not the same as them, and to be honest I wouldn't want to know someone like that.

This is among the most ridiculous statements I have ever read. Most people I know are not the same as me nor are they interested in all the things I am. A lot of them take the mick when it comes to certain aspects of life. At one point, I became the manager of some of my friends and they made life so difficult at times, but we are all still friends. I didn't suddenly think "my god, I don't want to know these people anymore". If you don't get on with someone fundamentally, then they won't become your friend - it is a fact of life. What I am saying is it is much easier to initially form a relationship based on things that you agree on rather than not agreeing on. People not accepting who you are is not a mental problem! It is a fact of life!

Shocking as it may seem, ladies generally aren't interested in mechanical objects. It's nice if they are, but the question is phrased as men should fit in with shopping, shoes, dress making, hairdressing and handbags to please them.

Again, something I have touched on previously. If you have an interest that you like to spend time on and want to have that time, it is not unreasonable to do likewise the other way. The frankly borderline sexist remarks you make here are all examples of normal human behaviour - activities that human beings take part in all the time. I don't do shoes myself and do not see the appeal but I do football. As an extension to this, my last girlfriend had a stamp collection. I only found out about it when I was talking about my father's stamp collection. Suddenly she piped up. In the whole give and take philosophy, she went with me to the odd train fair and I went with her to the odd stamp fair. I even passed up the opportunity of seeing the Monegasque Royal car collection so she could go to a stamp museum instead.

Get a grip and don't be so bloody sensitive, people are not quite a bothered about your interests as you think, unless its child porn or badger baiting.

Let me tell you something, Metroland. Whilst you may not give a rat's ass about what I am interested in, people I know are. Some of them accept them, some of them ridicule them. The OP's friend wants to know how to handle the subject with his girlfriend without being subject to excess ridicule whilst perhaps realising that she may find it a bit 'quirky'. To ensure that this does not affect a realtionship, I ensure that quirkiness only comes at a time when the other person has had enough time to get to know you well enough.

My 'sensitivity' in this thread has come from your attempt to ridicule what I said in my initial post, despite it just being an opionion that was asked for. If I can have my opinions questioned by you, then is it not possible that the OP's friend could be questioned also?

Just for the record, I would have more of a problem with child porn than badger baiting - I don't think the two rank similarly along my scale of abhorrent acts!

Finally, this is not an attack, I just get irritated with enthusiasts that try to prove being interested in apples is better than oranges.

At no point did I do any of that. I gave my informed opinion. You asked what the difference was between Trains/Bikes/Boates/Planes etc. Me123 showed you what the difference was - perception. My Capri owners club statement attempted to redress that balance slightly but, realistically, that is how it will always be seen.
 

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Perception is fickle. It can change overnight it’s a human construct, and can be changed one way or the other. Trainspotting was ‘the thing’, in the 50s and 60s, it only started having an image problems when comedians like Jasper Carrot and Harry Enfield started taking the mick out of it in the 80s, which was a joke not supposed to be taken literally - unless you are weak minded. Or do we respond to everything we're shown on in the media as fact?
 
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Haha yes that it a tough one....mine doesn't know! She doesn't even like traveling on trains, which for me is a pain :P

My last girlfriend was a bit mad, so i told her, and it didn't change a thing. She would get me rail based gifts, and then mock me, but I got used to that in the end! Anyway, she was too erratic for me, at least I got quite a few gifts off her haha!
 

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Maybe not by you.

I'm still posting, just not as an enthusiast anymore. More as a member of staff now.
 

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Honestly I found it hard to tell my girlfriend and I actually kept it secret from her but it came out when I used to volunteer at the Midland Railway Center and well managed to keep it secret but just saying "I just do this volunteering/helping out thing on sundays" then when she came over to my house for the first time she seen my models and asked me "do you like trains"
I said "In a way yes"
"In what way exactly is that"
"Alright I love the things I bet you think im pretty sad"
"Well it's a bit geeky but it's cute"

She should have ended there and then lol it annoys the hell out of her when I drag her about the place to get photos lol.
 
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