TRIVIA - current stations which were originally two separate stations

[pdeaves]

One which doesn't quite fit is two stations owned by the same company and subsequentially amalgamated - Dorchester West and South

Eh? Those are two separate stations on separate line owned by two separate companies (until nationalisation, of course).

 

[bradford758]

Not sure how LEEDS City/Wellington Street fits into this.
Or MANCHESTER Victoria/Exchange ??


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[61653 HTAFC]

Not sure how LEEDS City/Wellington Street fits into this.
Or MANCHESTER Victoria/Exchange ??


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Leeds City/Wellington fits perfectly with the criteria of the OP. It was once two separate stations and now isn't.
Victoria/Exchange I agree doesn't, as the only parts open today were always part of Victoria.

I think people need to re-learn how to read threads before posting, if this thread is anything to go by...
(Last point not aimed at you, Bradford758).

 

[341o2]

Eh? Those are two separate stations on separate line owned by two separate companies (until nationalisation, of course).

Should have been the situation at Dorchester South, where the original plan was to continue west, then shelved. The station became a terminus with all trains reversing. A new platform was provided for down trains, but reversal continued in the other direction until 1970

 

[yorksrob]

I've had a quick look through this thread and couldn't see it mentioned before (apologies if I've missed it).

London Bridge. Separate stations owned by the LB&SCR and SECR separately. One had to exit one station completely to enter the other.

They also swapped terminals early on.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Does Leatherhead count?

Originally two stations more or less parallel to each other, but with a couple of hundred feet between them. Became one after grouping, I think. The disused duplicate survived in non-railway use until as recently as about 15 - 20 years ago.

 

[341o2]

That's an interesting one, I suppose it's similar argument to whether or not you count Waterloo East and Waterloo as one station or two.

But York Rd was never amalgamated into the main KX station, upon electrification was closed, the electrics using a different line to reach Moorgate

I'm a bit confused over "distance between the two stations" and "on the same footprint" and am having doubts over Launceston, since firstly it is not a "current" station and secondly was never rebuilt, the former GWR station was simply closed and all trains used the former LSWR station until closure.

Then there is the narrow gauge railway over part of the trackbed.....

 

[MarlowDonkey]

Reading General and Reading Southern

Weren't these originally two separate stations with the Southern services diverted into new platforms at General some time during the 1960s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Southern_railway_station
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/r/reading_southern/

The two stations were adjacent though.

 

[MikePJ]

I'm pretty sure Cambridge was two stations early on - the main station for the ECR, and the two southern bay platforms (now 2 and 3) for the LNWR's line to Bedford, Bletchley and Oxford.

 

[mirodo]

Retford. Built as two separate stations served by the Sheffield and Lincolnshire Junction Railway and the Great Northern Railway.

 

[onlinespotting]

Wasn't platform 13/14 at Manchester Piccadilly originally a separate station?

 

[A0]

Willesden Junction?

 

[adrock1976]

I'm going to have a half-hearted stab at this and suggest Stratford in East London.

The high level bit was part of the Great Eastern Railway, with the low level downstairs being the North London Railway that until 2007 continued on to North Woolwich.

The low level section is now part of the Docklands Light Railway that runs to and from Stratford International, with the NLR having been moved upstairs.

 

[topydre]

Blaenau Ffestiniog

The small town used to have something like 5 stations! 2 (North and Stesion Fain) were amalgamated with the ex GWR station (Central) for the present station

 

[341o2]

I'd suggest Sandy as it became a junction between what is now the ECML and the "Varsity line" (Bedford to Cambridge, eventually part of the LNWR). When the eastern section of this line was closed in 1968, Sandy station was rebuilt with four tracks and two outer platforms, the "Varsity line" platforms being demolished as part of the process. They were seperate and adjacent to the ECML

 

[Emblematic]

I'm going to have a half-hearted stab at this and suggest Stratford in East London.

The high level bit was part of the Great Eastern Railway, with the low level downstairs being the North London Railway that until 2007 continued on to North Woolwich.

The low level section is now part of the Docklands Light Railway that runs to and from Stratford International, with the NLR having been moved upstairs.

I believe you'll find that all of Stratford station, both high and low level platforms, was built by the Eastern Counties Railway, as was the line to North Woolwich and many other lines to the docks. The North London Railway ran services though the high level platforms into Essex, and also to Bow via Stratford, but the running of through services from North Woolwich to the NLL only came in BR days.

 

[30907]

Blaenau Ffestiniog

The small town used to have something like 5 stations! 2 (North and Stesion Fain) were amalgamated with the ex GWR station (Central) for the present station

The LNW station was (and partly survives) on a separate site from the present NR station ( and I think the GW one was further towards Bala, they were not amalgamated but replaced.

 

[30907]

Should have been the situation at Dorchester South, where the original plan was to continue west, then shelved. The station became a terminus with all trains reversing. A new platform was provided for down trains, but reversal continued in the other direction until 1970

Yes, but all that was Dorchester South station.

 

[6Gman]

Was Preston not two stations at one time? North Union and East Lancs?

Not sure if any of the EL bit survives within the current station.

 

[PeterC]

Somebody mentioned Romford earlier. That is a definite, the two stations were on opposite sides of South Street until the LTS station was closed at ground level and a footbridge built across South Street. In the 60s the blocked off stairs on the LTS were still visible but I never knew how far down they went. As a kid it greatly confused me as I didn't know then that it had been a separate station.

Stratford - the North Woolwich services used to go to Palace Gates.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Shotton? High level was originally Chester and Holyhead Railway and low level for LNWR.

Shotton LL was originally Chester & Holyhead, later LNWR.
Shotton HL was MS&L, later Great Central.

Manchester Victoria is essentially a merger of the old Exchange and Victoria.
There were many such mergers in the 1960s/70s, eg Chester Northgate into Chester General, Liverpool Central into Lime St, even (for a time) Birmingham Snow Hill into New St, Manchester Central into Oxford Road or Piccadilly.

 

[RichardN]

East Croydon (I know Wikipedia can't be relied on as a source.)

The new platforms adjoined East Croydon but were treated by the LB&SCR as a separate station named New Croydon, with its own ticket office, and which ran exclusively LBSCR services. This device enabled the railway to avoid breaking an agreement with the SER, whilst offering cheaper fares than the SER from the original station.

 

[SwindonBert]

Liskeard

The Looe line from Liskeard was run by the Liskeard and Looe Railway [now it would take months of research and focus groups, costing a fortune to come up with such an imaginative name!]

Now, it's really 2 stations with a common name (& a platform at 90 degrees to the others)

 

[iain-j]

I guess if we are being really specific here then Edinburgh Waverley doesn't count as it was originally three stations not two,

These Being;

• North Bridge Station of the North British Railway
• General Station of The Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway
• Canal Street station of the Edinburgh, Leith and Newhaven Railway,

 

[30907]

There were many such mergers in the 1960s/70s, eg Chester Northgate into Chester General, Liverpool Central into Lime St, even (for a time) Birmingham Snow Hill into New St, Manchester Central into Oxford Road or Piccadilly.

None of these are mergers in any physical sense, but transfers of function from one to another.

 

[Dr_Paul]

Richmond: the original LSWR station's platforms started approximately halfway along the current platforms 1 and 2 and finished near the Parkshot overbridge, with the station building between Kew Road and Parkshot. The 'new' station, also LSWR, was where platforms 3 to 7 are today, with the station buildings being on the east side of Kew Road. The two stations were divided by a footpath down from Church Road. See this map. The station was rebuilt during the 1930s with one station building, as it is today. See this map.

 

[gg1]

None of these are mergers in any physical sense, but transfers of function from one to another.

Agree, I wouldn't count any of these. There are numerous other examples, off the top of my head, Glasgow Central/St Enoch, Lincoln Central/ St Mark's, Gloucester Central/Eastgate, Edinburgh Waverley/Princes Street etc etc

 

[sjoh]

No, no!! Charing Cross now is an amalgamation of Strand (Northern Line) and Trafalgar Square (Bakerloo Line) with the later addition of the Jubilee Line which was quickly taken away when the decision was made to go elsewhere after Green Park. The present Embankment Station was confusingly known by the Underground as Charing Cross and that renaming precipitated the other change. I was working at Northern Line control centre at the time and was very much in favour of the changes: I couldn't believe how many of the 'old guard' were against it, though!

You are right of course - got my Charing Cross and Embankment renamings mixed up. I believe the physical connection between the two was only put in with the arrival of the Jubilee, though (and of course, remains, thankfully)?

 

[John07]

Wasn't platform 13/14 at Manchester Piccadilly originally a separate station?

I don't think so.

There was a separate station, Manchester Mayfield, just across the Fairfax Street from Platforms 13-14 whose passenger services were moved to Manchester London Road (renamed as Manchester Piccadilly) in 1960.

 

[a_c_skinner]

I may have misunderstood but I'll offer Buxton; built as two matching stations with the MR one closed and demolished.