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TimboM

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Bumped in the hope someone can still help.

Some queries for Wednesday 6th June please:

66 on "473U" the 0925 Southampton - Garston through MKC around 1430 66512 on 4M58
66 on Felixstowe - Hams Hall (?) through MKC around 1438 - 66717 on 4M23 Felixstowe-Hams Hall
66 on a Down I/modal through H Hempstead around 1444 (can't trace any likely suspect) 66955 4M88 Felixstowe to Trafford Park - went through Bourne End (right next to Hemel Hempstead) at 14:45

There were 2 x 68 on a Down Nuclear Flasks at Wembley around 2015. I think they were 68018 & 68030. Can anyone confirm? Yes - they were on 6M95 Dungeness CEGB to Crewe Coal Sidings

70 on an Up I/modal leaving Wembley around 2015? 70008 on 4L92

Finally the 66 through Crewe (station) around 2150 on the Jaguar train from Ditton.
Can't find this one - every single train to/from Halewood Jaguar is showing caped on 6 June..?
 
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Some queries for Wednesday 6th June please:

66 on "473U" the 0925 Southampton - Garston through MKC around 1430 66512 on 4M58
66 on Felixstowe - Hams Hall (?) through MKC around 1438 - 66717 on 4M23 Felixstowe-Hams Hall
66 on a Down I/modal through H Hempstead around 1444 (can't trace any likely suspect) 66955 4M88 Felixstowe to Trafford Park - went through Bourne End (right next to Hemel Hempstead) at 14:45

There were 2 x 68 on a Down Nuclear Flasks at Wembley around 2015. I think they were 68018 & 68030. Can anyone confirm? Yes - they were on 6M95 Dungeness CEGB to Crewe Coal Sidings

70 on an Up I/modal leaving Wembley around 2015? 70008 on 4L92

Finally the 66 through Crewe (station) around 2150 on the Jaguar train from Ditton.
Can't find this one - every single train to/from Halewood Jaguar is showing caped on 6 June..?

Many thanks for that.

The train through Crewe around 2150 was the vans and Jaguar "containers" from the sidings by Stobart between Widnes & Ditton rather than from Halewood. (Steel from a Warrington site ... I think!)

It was the 1146 Ditton Foundry Lane to Dollands Moor which recesses at Warrington for hours, but appears to have passed Crewe at around 2152. Loco anybody? :D
 
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Many thanks for that.

The train through Crewe around 2150 was the vans and Jaguar "containers" from the sidings by Stobart between Widnes & Ditton rather than from Halewood. (Steel from a Warrington site ... I think!)
Based on that description I reckon it was DB Red 66152 on 6O16 11:46 Ditton Foundry Lane AHC English Welsh & Scottish Railway to Dollands Moor Sidings

The train goes to Arpley for a 7+ hour lay over. The system picked it up going to Arpley, but no reports after that - however it's timed to go through Crewe 21:52 and the description of the vans fits this working.
 

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Can anyone confirm the class 66 on the Thursday 7th June 13.18 (actual dep 13.52) Mountsorrel Sidings to Crewe Basford Hall please?
 

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Can anyone confirm the colas class 37 on today's 09.00 Derby RTC - Derby RTC run please?
 

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Can anyone confirm the colas class 37 on today's 09.00 Derby RTC - Derby RTC run please?
TOPS had it as 37175, but reported by a Raicam user that this wasn't correct and it was 37099.
 

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Evening all, please can anyone tell me what class 325 was at Low Fell last Thursday 7th.
Thanks.
 

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Doncaster 11/06
88*** & 56*** in CHS Sidings at 18:30
66*** Tees - Flex 18:50
66*** Fairwater - Doncaster 19:55

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Evening all. Hope I am providing all the correct information here.

I am compiling a TT for the Exeter layout on SimSig. The timetable is based around the schedules of 13th June 2018 and I am having trouble with some of the evening trains at Taunton, namely the ones marked with black dots in the attachment.

2C87, which runs from Cardiff Central, was adding to the troubles but I have added a move, numbered 5Z30, which is not scheduled in the list and which provides for 2C87 to reverse at the west end of Taunton and work into Platform 4 prior to departing at 2035 as 2E30: therefore I have put lines through the train numbers. However RTT tells me nothing as to what is supposed to happen so at least one platform clash looks inevitable.

I am wondering, therefore, if someone with the relevant information to hand has any idea where 1V64, which arrives from Edinburgh at 2016hrs, is supposed to reverse to get into Platform 4? North end (using signal 604) or South end (using either signal 617 or 619)? SimSig screendump and RTT information attached.

Cheers,
Dave

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Morning! I’m hoping to get out later to try and find the following, any help with location will be greatly appreciated.

156448
156451

Many thanks in advance.
 

Leviathan

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I'm also out today in Glasgow and looking to try and get the following units.

320411
170394

Assistance would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
 

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Morning! I’m hoping to get out later to try and find the following, any help with location will be greatly appreciated.

156448
156451

Many thanks in advance.
If you are still looking?
156448
Liverpool South
DEP 15:20 1H40
Warrington Centl 15:44 15:45 1H40
Manchester Ox Rd 16:07 16:09 1H40
Manchester Picc 16:11 16:13 1H40
Manchester Int A 16:28 16:50 1F91
Manchester Picc 17:08 17:10 1F91
Manchester Ox Rd 17:12 17:13 1F91
Warrington Centl 17:34 17:35 1F91
Liverpool South 18:00 18:20 1H43
Warrington Centl 18:44 18:45 1H43
Manchester Ox Rd 19:07 19:08 1H43
Manchester Picc 19:11 19:13 1H43
Manchester Int A 19:28 19:50 1F94
Manchester Picc 20:07 20:09 1F94
Manchester Ox Rd 20:11 20:12 1F94
Warrington Centl 20:34 20:34 1F94
Liverpool South 21:00
156451
Chester
DEP 17:02 2H33
Stockport 18:16 18:17 2H33
Manchester Picc 18:30 18:41 2D57
Stockport 18:49 18:52 2D57
Chester 20:09 21:02 2H38
Stockport 22:18 22:18 2H38
Manchester Picc 22:32
 

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I'm also out today in Glasgow and looking to try and get the following units.

320411
170394

Assistance would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
If you are still looking?
320411
Milngavie
DEP 15:08 2C04
Hyndland 15:22 15:23 2C04
Partick 15:24 15:25 2C04
Anderston 15:29 15:30 2C04
Glasgow Ctl LL 15:31 15:34 2C04
Newton 15:53 15:54 2C04
Hamilton Central 16:03 16:04 2C04
Motherwell 16:12 16:20 2S05
Glasgow Ctl LL 16:56 16:57 2S05
Anderston 16:58 16:59 2S05
Partick 17:04 17:05 2S05
Hyndland 17:06 17:07 2S05
Singer 17:20 17:21 2S05
Dalmuir 17:23 17:34 5L02
Dalmuir Dn CHS 17:36 17:41 5L02
Dalmuir 17:43 17:48 2L02
Singer 17:49 17:50 2L02
Hyndland 18:04 18:04 2L02
Partick 18:06 18:07 2L02
Anderston 18:12 18:13 2L02
Glasgow Ctl LL 18:14 18:18 2L02
Newton 18:36 18:37 2L02
Hamilton Central 18:46 18:46 2L02
Larkhall 18:57 19:03 2L05
Hamilton Central 19:12 19:12 2L05
Newton 19:22 19:22 2L05
Glasgow Ctl LL 19:39 19:40 2L05
Anderston 19:41 19:41 2L05
Partick 19:46 19:47 2L05
Hyndland 19:48 19:49 2L05
Milngavie 20:03 20:09 2C24
Hyndland 20:22 20:23 2C24
Partick 20:24 20:25 2C24
Anderston 20:32 20:33 2C24
Glasgow Ctl LL 20:34 20:36 2C24
Newton 20:53 20:54 2C24
Hamilton Central 21:03 21:04 2C24
Motherwell 21:12 21:23 2S25
Glasgow Ctl LL 21:57 21:58 2S25
Anderston 21:59 22:00 2S25
Partick 22:05 22:05 2S25
Hyndland 22:07 22:08 2S25
Singer 22:20 22:21 2S25
Dalmuir 22:23 22:33 5L22
Dalmuir Dn CHS 22:35 22:45 5L22
Dalmuir 22:47 22:48 2L22
Singer 22:49 22:50 2L22
Hyndland 23:05 23:05 2L22
Partick 23:07 23:08 2L22
Anderston 23:13 23:14 2L22
Glasgow Ctl LL 23:15 23:17 2L22
Newton 23:34 23:35 2L22
Hamilton Central 23:44 23:46 2L22
Larkhall 23:56
170394
Edinburgh
DEP 15:45 1R83
Croy 16:26 16:26 1R83
Glasgow Queen St 16:38 16:45 1R92
Croy 16:58 16:58 1R92
Edinburgh 17:40 17:45 1R03
Croy 18:24 18:24 1R03
Glasgow Queen St 18:37 18:45 1R12
Croy 18:56 18:56 1R12
Edinburgh 19:36 20:31 1R25
Croy 21:10 21:11 1R25
Glasgow Queen St 21:25 21:30 1R34
Croy 21:41 21:41 1R34
Edinburgh 22:24 22:30 1R41
Croy 23:07 23:08 1R41
Glasgow Queen St 23:22 23:30 1R50
Croy 23:42 23:43 1R50
Edinburgh 00:26
 

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If you are still looking?
156448
Liverpool South
DEP 15:20 1H40
Warrington Centl 15:44 15:45 1H40
Manchester Ox Rd 16:07 16:09 1H40
Manchester Picc 16:11 16:13 1H40
Manchester Int A 16:28 16:50 1F91
Manchester Picc 17:08 17:10 1F91
Manchester Ox Rd 17:12 17:13 1F91
Warrington Centl 17:34 17:35 1F91
Liverpool South 18:00 18:20 1H43
Warrington Centl 18:44 18:45 1H43
Manchester Ox Rd 19:07 19:08 1H43
Manchester Picc 19:11 19:13 1H43
Manchester Int A 19:28 19:50 1F94
Manchester Picc 20:07 20:09 1F94
Manchester Ox Rd 20:11 20:12 1F94
Warrington Centl 20:34 20:34 1F94
Liverpool South 21:00
156451
Chester
DEP 17:02 2H33
Stockport 18:16 18:17 2H33
Manchester Picc 18:30 18:41 2D57
Stockport 18:49 18:52 2D57
Chester 20:09 21:02 2H38
Stockport 22:18 22:18 2H38
Manchester Picc 22:32

Thanks, as always, for your help! Not been able to get over that way today but useful to know they’re both around Manchester though!

Will try and get over there tomorrow morning, so will probably ask for the same two tomorrow if you’re able to check!

Cheers :)
 

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If you are still looking?
320411
Milngavie
DEP 15:08 2C04
Hyndland 15:22 15:23 2C04
Partick 15:24 15:25 2C04
Anderston 15:29 15:30 2C04
Glasgow Ctl LL 15:31 15:34 2C04
Newton 15:53 15:54 2C04
Hamilton Central 16:03 16:04 2C04
Motherwell 16:12 16:20 2S05
Glasgow Ctl LL 16:56 16:57 2S05
Anderston 16:58 16:59 2S05
Partick 17:04 17:05 2S05
Hyndland 17:06 17:07 2S05
Singer 17:20 17:21 2S05
Dalmuir 17:23 17:34 5L02
Dalmuir Dn CHS 17:36 17:41 5L02
Dalmuir 17:43 17:48 2L02
Singer 17:49 17:50 2L02
Hyndland 18:04 18:04 2L02
Partick 18:06 18:07 2L02
Anderston 18:12 18:13 2L02
Glasgow Ctl LL 18:14 18:18 2L02
Newton 18:36 18:37 2L02
Hamilton Central 18:46 18:46 2L02
Larkhall 18:57 19:03 2L05
Hamilton Central 19:12 19:12 2L05
Newton 19:22 19:22 2L05
Glasgow Ctl LL 19:39 19:40 2L05
Anderston 19:41 19:41 2L05
Partick 19:46 19:47 2L05
Hyndland 19:48 19:49 2L05
Milngavie 20:03 20:09 2C24
Hyndland 20:22 20:23 2C24
Partick 20:24 20:25 2C24
Anderston 20:32 20:33 2C24
Glasgow Ctl LL 20:34 20:36 2C24
Newton 20:53 20:54 2C24
Hamilton Central 21:03 21:04 2C24
Motherwell 21:12 21:23 2S25
Glasgow Ctl LL 21:57 21:58 2S25
Anderston 21:59 22:00 2S25
Partick 22:05 22:05 2S25
Hyndland 22:07 22:08 2S25
Singer 22:20 22:21 2S25
Dalmuir 22:23 22:33 5L22
Dalmuir Dn CHS 22:35 22:45 5L22
Dalmuir 22:47 22:48 2L22
Singer 22:49 22:50 2L22
Hyndland 23:05 23:05 2L22
Partick 23:07 23:08 2L22
Anderston 23:13 23:14 2L22
Glasgow Ctl LL 23:15 23:17 2L22
Newton 23:34 23:35 2L22
Hamilton Central 23:44 23:46 2L22
Larkhall 23:56
170394
Edinburgh
DEP 15:45 1R83
Croy 16:26 16:26 1R83
Glasgow Queen St 16:38 16:45 1R92
Croy 16:58 16:58 1R92
Edinburgh 17:40 17:45 1R03
Croy 18:24 18:24 1R03
Glasgow Queen St 18:37 18:45 1R12
Croy 18:56 18:56 1R12
Edinburgh 19:36 20:31 1R25
Croy 21:10 21:11 1R25
Glasgow Queen St 21:25 21:30 1R34
Croy 21:41 21:41 1R34
Edinburgh 22:24 22:30 1R41
Croy 23:07 23:08 1R41
Glasgow Queen St 23:22 23:30 1R50
Croy 23:42 23:43 1R50
Edinburgh 00:26

Managed to get both. Thanks for taking the trouble though. Appreciated.
 

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Evening all. Hope I am providing all the correct information here.

I am compiling a TT for the Exeter layout on SimSig. The timetable is based around the schedules of 13th June 2018 and I am having trouble with some of the evening trains at Taunton, namely the ones marked with black dots in the attachment.

2C87, which runs from Cardiff Central, was adding to the troubles but I have added a move, numbered 5Z30, which is not scheduled in the list and which provides for 2C87 to reverse at the west end of Taunton and work into Platform 4 prior to departing at 2035 as 2E30: therefore I have put lines through the train numbers. However RTT tells me nothing as to what is supposed to happen so at least one platform clash looks inevitable.

I am wondering, therefore, if someone with the relevant information to hand has any idea where 1V64, which arrives from Edinburgh at 2016hrs, is supposed to reverse to get into Platform 4? North end (using signal 604) or South end (using either signal 617 or 619)? SimSig screendump and RTT information attached.

Cheers,
Dave

Dave

You don't need 5Z30; 2C87 and 2E30 arrive and depart from Platform 2 (like, for instance, 2C83 and 2U28 earlier).

Despite what RTT indicates 1V64 usually arrives at P3 on its route to Plymouth. The ECS would leave P3 westbound ....

There seem to be many ECS movements missing from the current timetable when they're within station boundaries.

You don't need 5Z30; 2C87 and 2E30 arrive and depart from Platform 2 (like, for instance, 2C83 and 2U28 earlier).

Despite what RTT indicates 1V64 usually arrives at P3 on its route to Plymouth. The VAR ECS should leave P3 westbound ....

There seem to be many ECS movements missing from the current timetable when they're, ultimately, within station boundaries.

Chris
 
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You don't need 5Z30; 2C87 and 2E30 arrive and depart from Platform 2 (like, for instance, 2C83 and 2U28 earlier).

Despite what RTT indicates 1V64 usually arrives at P3 on its route to Plymouth. The VAR ECS should leave P3 westbound ....

There seem to be many ECS movements missing from the current timetable when they're, ultimately, within station boundaries.

Chris
True re. 1V64. Doesn't help that 2C87 is shown on RTT for 13th June as occupying Platform 2 and that Platform 3 is taken by 1C62 before 1V64 arrives. I kept watch on the OTT live maps and ended up none the wiser as 1V64 took Platform 3 after arriving late. 2C87, for its part, did an ECS to Platform 5 before leaving with 2E30 but no headcode turned up on the OTT live map for that ECS.

1V64 did also do an ECS before leaving with 1M80 but the only headcode for that got put into Platform 4 and, rather unhelpfully, said "191U" instead of a 5xxx

Dave
 
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