gazthomas
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I've not see Tamworth mentioned yet?
It was, in post #6 (which mistakenly proposed Stafford, possibly intended to be Lichfield Trent Valley or even Stratford.)I've not see Tamworth mentioned yet?
I'd be surprised if they ever needed differentiated, as they're on totally different networks. Similar situation with any of the London main-line termini and their associated London Underground stations - even though a (very lost) main-line train could theoretically make its' way to some of them, which isn't physically possible in Glasgow.Would St Enoch station in Glasgow count? Mainline station (high level), Glasgow Subway (Low Level).
I've never heard them differentiated as such though.
AFAIK the designations only apply to separate stations, and they are not necessarily adjacent - Plauen is an extreme example, where the Unterer Bhf (now closed to passengers) was about 2 miles from Oberer Bhf (the main station).Concerning our Continental neighbours; Germany has, or has had, a very close equivalent: in numerous instances of [community's name] respectively Oberer; and Unterer; Bahnhof
It certainly appears that embellishment of station names goes through fads and fashions.I suspect the use of the names HL and LL fell into obeyance for reasons of fashion as much as anything......
AFAIK the designations only apply to separate stations, and they are not necessarily adjacent - Plauen is an extreme example, where the Unterer Bhf (now closed to passengers) was about 2 miles from Oberer Bhf (the main station).
A ststion with high and low level platforms is often called a Turmbahnhof (but that doesn't appear in the station name). Berlin Hbf LL is called "tief" (deep level).
Thanks -- I may have been under a bit of a misapprehension there.
A German "various-levels station" scenario which has always intrigued me (have never been there) is that at Hoya (Niedersachsen state) -- on the standard-gauge private-line system which connects with the metre-gauge Bruckhausen-Vilsen to Asendorf metre-gauge heritage line. W.J.K. Davies describes this set-up in his Railway Holiday in Northern Germany, as experienced by him in 1963 -- so far as I know, it still obtains physically today: don't know whether the system still has regular passenger services. A tangle of physical, and administrative, complexities -- involving the always standard-gauge short line from Hoya to the main-line junction, crossing the River Weser in Hoya on a high bridge to a high-level terminus; and conversion from metre to s/g, of the line running in the other direction out of Hoya -- plus the whole having been merged into one private-railway undertaking -- resulted in Hoya station effectively being in three parts, on different levels: "high", "middle", and "low": all being used by trains at assorted times, depending on a number of "variables". Davies makes no mention of suffixes: it seems that -- sensibly -- it was all just Hoya station, "end-of" !
Sadly, Hoya is only used by goods and tourist trains, and the upper and middle platforms have disappeared altogether, with a direct connection from the bridge to the main low-level running line west of the station.
Warrington Bank Quay used to have a low level station.
Smethwick Galton Road has high and low level stations
The Woolwich platforms at Stratford used to be named in timetables as "Low Level" but the main station was just "Stratford". I have never seen the vertical split at Canning Town given a High / Low label.Technically I suppose the DLR has a couple of examples in Canning Town and Stratford.
And back in the 50s there was Willesden Junc Main Line (the original) as well.Willesden Junction is one that has been missed. My 1950 ABC shows the two as "High Level" and "New" (opened 1910) but later BR timetables use the conventional High / Low. London Overground now just list it as one station.
The NL platforms always used to be called Statford Low Level in BR daysTechnically I suppose the DLR has a couple of examples in Canning Town and Stratford.
Mentioned in post #4 but thanks for the extra detail.One that hasn’t been mentioned yet is St Pancras, but it only really applies to GTR.
Thameslink 99% of the time run through platforms A and B underground (the TIPLOC is even STPXBOX because it was literally built in a box underground). However, the platforms 1-4 above ground are also used by Thameslink until 09.30 on Sunday mornings and are also a diversionary terminus.
Within GTR platforms A&B and platforms 1-4 are often distinguished as ‘St Pancras Low Level’ and ‘St Pancras High Level’ respectively.
Galton Bridge, please...
And I would not regard the Helensbugh stations as "close" - it is a longish walk between them - must be at least 5 minutes. I did it several times when 37s used to operate on the West Highland.