kidman123
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Thish was around half 9 - half 10 is this a service or does this just go to polmadie via the city of Glasgow line via springburn
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Xc voyager going through edinburgh park on the Edinburgh Glasgow
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PHILIPE
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Completely untraceable via this route. XC do'nt use Polmadie in any case. there were Voyagers running via Slateford but not Edinburgh Park
kidman123
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Had a look on rtt it was a virgin voyager going to polmadie
It's a weekly diagram that's been running for years. A double Virgin Voyager runs empty from Waverley to Polmadie via Falkirk Grahamston, Cumbernauld, and Coatbridge. If I remember rightly there was also a Polmadie to Edinburgh one which stopped not too long ago.
PHILIPE
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Can you post the link to RTT here please as I can't trace anything via Edinburgh Park
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From RTT
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y82299/2019/05/10/advanced Friday May 10th
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y82299/2019/05/10/advanced Friday May 10th
PHILIPE
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Thanks very much for that. The OP hadn't said what day it was so and said that it was a XC so also not looking for Friday
Just about every Monday and Tuesday morning at about 7.20am whilst i’m waiting at Polmont, a VTWC double Super Voyager Unit passes through towards Edinburgh. I’m presuming it comes from Polmadie via Falkirk Grahamston, to operate the 8.52 Edinburgh/ London Euston service?
I’m curious what the reasoning is for this route? and does this happen every morning, just at different times so I don’t see it?
I’m curious what the reasoning is for this route? and does this happen every morning, just at different times so I don’t see it?
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It’s 5M52 0623 Polmadie - Edinburgh Waverley which runs that way Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays for diversionary route knowledge retention. There’s a corresponding back working at night, 5S93 2238 Edinburgh Waverley - Polmadie.
Interesting. So if a train from the London wasn't able to go across to Edinburgh at Carstairs, the service could potentially go via Cumbernauld and Falkirk? How often has that happened? Would they ever use a class 390 now that the route is entirely electrified?
PHILIPE
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Welcome to the Forum and hope that you will enjoy some good discussion. Actually somebody asked the same question a few weeks ago so you might find some interesting reading here:-
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/xc-voyager-going-through-edinburgh-park-on-the-edinburgh-glasgow.182561/
Regarding a 390 working it, I can't see anything to prevent it but it would depend on what stock would be moved and how it would fit in the overall orkings (diagrams)
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/xc-voyager-going-through-edinburgh-park-on-the-edinburgh-glasgow.182561/
Regarding a 390 working it, I can't see anything to prevent it but it would depend on what stock would be moved and how it would fit in the overall orkings (diagrams)
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Not sure 390s are allowed via Kirkwood and/or Whifflet.
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You'll struggle to get a Pendolino around the Edinburgh Suburban line.
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Class 390s aren’t route cleared north of Mossend South Junction towards Whifflet, Carmyle and Coatbridge due to dynamic gauge restrictions at a bridge. That means you can’t divert a 390 via the R&C; they have recently been cleared to operate over the Benhar though which I’m sure will come in handy at some point.
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Back in 2012, TPE services were routed that way during engineering works (diesel operations). They called at Falkirk Grahamson.
March 2013 i took TPE from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Falkirk , im sure it didnt call at Falkirk .
Wouldnt 390s go via Shotts now its wired?
PHILIPE
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Isn't the point of the routing for route knowledge retention ?
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Not if the blockage is between Haymarket East Jn and Midcalder Jn, for example.... In any case it's moot because Pendolinos aren't route cleared.
LNW-GW Joint
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If ever ICWC offers a service to Stirling (promised in 2012 for after electrification), 390s will need to be cleared via Coatbridge.
TPE's 397s, and maybe 802s, will also need to be route cleared that way if they are to use the Falkirk route for diversions.
diffident
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This whole debate brings us back to rail nationalisation. Wouldn't it be better that the drivers were civil servants, trained to drive trains over a range of routes???
That way, drivers aren't restricted by employer and their routes, but by the area they serve????
That way, drivers aren't restricted by employer and their routes, but by the area they serve????
Its just a debate about trains going via certain route and nothing to do with nationalisation
So a Preston driver only serves the preston area and so on and so forth which means lots of crew changeovers and if the incoming driver is delayed then massive knock on delays everywhere else - Brilliant plan
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No it appears you have contorted the thread to the subject of nationalisation. It really has nothing to do with the topic in hand, perhaps the speculation forum would be a better place for the debate you are hoping to kick off..?
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If you'd cared to include the rest of my statement in your quote, you'd note that I'm talking about driver coverage, not privatisation per se. But I'll leave that to you're own @Highlandspring
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