Hi,
A while back I asked about old timetables, but wondered if anyone could give information on the typical pattern of Southern Region services over selected years in this period? Specifically the mainlines (non-suburban) on the South Western and Central divisions between 1975-82? I ask as this is immediately before I started using the railways and it would be interesting to compare service patterns in the immediate preceding years to those I remember. Or if anyone can supply photocopies of timetables for this time period on any of these routes I'd be interested.
On another related matter, I did (once) have a copy of Table 186 (in a booklet) for the Central Division for the year 1983/84 (service patterns shown: hourly VIC-Brighton fast, hourly LBG (I think)-Brighton semi-fast; half-hourly Brighton slow, incorporating the 'Rapid City Link' (Gatwick Express predecessor) to Gatwick, hourly Bognor and hourly Horsham, each also incorporating the Rapid City Link. In addition there was a half hourly service to Redhill from LBG routed Crystal Palace and Tulse Hill.
My question is this: I also recall seeing at Havant that year, an hourly PMH-VIC service routed Arun Valley and Gatwick, mostly CIGs with the odd VEP. Yet these services didn't seem to appear in Table 186; the only Arun Valleys shown were the Bognor and the Horsham mentioned above. Can anyone shed light on this.. maybe after East Croydon they only stopped at Gatwick to pick up and thence to Crawley, so would not set down at any BML station? Also, the Bognor service in Table 186 seemed relatively slow, routed Redhill and calling Horley (in contrast to the Quarry line service in operation from 1985), was there also a faster Bognor service as well?
Would also be interested to find out the typical stock allocation on the VIC services that year, I know the Central Division had CIGs, VEPs and CAPs.
Thanks,
Nick
A while back I asked about old timetables, but wondered if anyone could give information on the typical pattern of Southern Region services over selected years in this period? Specifically the mainlines (non-suburban) on the South Western and Central divisions between 1975-82? I ask as this is immediately before I started using the railways and it would be interesting to compare service patterns in the immediate preceding years to those I remember. Or if anyone can supply photocopies of timetables for this time period on any of these routes I'd be interested.
On another related matter, I did (once) have a copy of Table 186 (in a booklet) for the Central Division for the year 1983/84 (service patterns shown: hourly VIC-Brighton fast, hourly LBG (I think)-Brighton semi-fast; half-hourly Brighton slow, incorporating the 'Rapid City Link' (Gatwick Express predecessor) to Gatwick, hourly Bognor and hourly Horsham, each also incorporating the Rapid City Link. In addition there was a half hourly service to Redhill from LBG routed Crystal Palace and Tulse Hill.
My question is this: I also recall seeing at Havant that year, an hourly PMH-VIC service routed Arun Valley and Gatwick, mostly CIGs with the odd VEP. Yet these services didn't seem to appear in Table 186; the only Arun Valleys shown were the Bognor and the Horsham mentioned above. Can anyone shed light on this.. maybe after East Croydon they only stopped at Gatwick to pick up and thence to Crawley, so would not set down at any BML station? Also, the Bognor service in Table 186 seemed relatively slow, routed Redhill and calling Horley (in contrast to the Quarry line service in operation from 1985), was there also a faster Bognor service as well?
Would also be interested to find out the typical stock allocation on the VIC services that year, I know the Central Division had CIGs, VEPs and CAPs.
Thanks,
Nick