Greeny
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The usual claptrap from this 'Im alright Jack' type person.
Agreed - some of those individuals should try working for the world class company they support so enthusiastically.
The usual claptrap from this 'Im alright Jack' type person.
The usual claptrap from this 'Im alright Jack' type person.
Agreed - some of those individuals should try working for the world class company they support so enthusiastically.
As I said earlier though, i'll deal with it. I'm sure i'll get to work by another method.
Crikey, we'll soon have Gene Hunt back running Greater Manchester CID at this rate!
Also as I said earlier, tough. Bleating on about it isn't going to change anything. I do detect a hint of hyperbole though. Millions of people? Please. This isn't the stone age.
Nice to see union people trying to get the public on their side! :roll:
Maybe the customers should go on strike sometime
Newsflash captain, this is the UK and not the USA!
Newsflash captain, this is the UK and not the USA!
Well stop giving us silly US company analogies when they clearly have no relevance to the debate. That is my point.
Greenback, you use emotional language - 'tearing up agreements' for instance. If I decide to terminate my motor insurance and take out a policy with a different company, am I 'tearing up an agreement' or simply excercising my right to change insurer?
Imposing changes without consultation? Oh, you poor dears! What a sheltered life you must have led; try working for a large American IT corporation and see if they consult you on changes! Of course they don't - and no right-minded person would expect that. If you want things run a particular way and it's not happening, get your finger out and become a manager - then you can make things happen exactly as you would wish.
Or perhaps, having topped that particular mountain, you'll find the view is very different than it was back in sleepy hollow. You might suddenly realise WHY changes sometimes have to happen without consultation, and why it's not possible to keep everyone happy all of the time - if you are running the business!
So stop trying to run the business from sleepy hollow using your captive customers as a lever! Leave it to the managers, or become one and change it from within!
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In the real world, they do! BA customers are right now voting with their feet and flying other airlines instead of BA. The sad thing is that it won't only be the amazingly self-centred cabin crew who will end up in the dole queue, so will thousands of hard working and non-striking BA employees - dragged down by the neanderthals!
I think that the Captain has already decided that the strikers are in the wrong
it is an argument within NR and that's where it should stay
Its not so much that he thinks the strikes in this instance are wrong and as I said earlier, there should have been in my opinion "action short of strike" before bringing out the big guns....after all, thats what the majority voted for.
Its more his general remarks on strikes full stop (what ever industry). Unfortuantly strikes are a necessary tool and sometimes that right needs to be exercised.
And as I said earlier, if no resolution has been made during the negotiating period what would your solution be?
Again you are skirting around the point of what is YOUR solution? Or would you just keep negotiations open indefinitely and hope to bore the unions to death?
I don't wish to comment on the issues causing the dispute - it's not my place
The rights and wrongs of your grievance are of no interest to me...the political and career ambitions of that 1970s dinosaur, Mr Crow?
just listen to Beeb news...the neanderthal attitude of the strikers?
To punish the public for your own ends just because you can is dispicable. It really is that simple!
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These people are inward-looking and think the world revolves around them. Well the rest of us have moved on since the 1970s. These potential strikers really need a wake-up call, the sort Reagan gave to the striking US Air Traffic Controllers - he sacked them!
And guess what? No planes crashed, delays were minimal, and lots of folk now have jobs in ATC thanks to that clearing out of the self-serving dead wood!
Greenback, you have not read my posts with sufficient degree of care. I have never, at any point, commented on the grievance itself. In my view the strikers are only wrong in threatening to strike! All I have said, all along, is that any grievance should be settled between the parties who are at varience. At no point have I supported either view over the other on the points of difference of opinion in the dispute.
What I have said is that no-one should hold their customers to ransom to force their view to prevail! It is not the customer's argument - it is an argument within NR and that's where it should stay!
To use your customers so is despicable! Outside sleepy hollow, you wouldn't get away with it (see what happens to BA!).
Its not so much that he thinks the strikes in this instance are wrong and as I said earlier, there should have been in my opinion "action short of strike" before bringing out the big guns....after all, thats what the majority voted for.
Its more his general remarks on strikes full stop (what ever industry). Unfortuantly strikes are a necessary tool and sometimes that right needs to be exercised.
Remeber that people do not strike just for the hell of it and all of those that partake in this strike will lose money and forfeit their bonus.
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And as I said earlier, if no resolution has been made during the negotiating period what would your solution be?
Thats rich! You dont want to comment on the issues but are quick enough to criticise the staff.