There's a video of arrival and departure moves on/off SP here.
I'm not sure to be honest, I don't sign it. If I see a Wiganer to ask them I'll find out.Is Stop Board WSB14 the point where the Wigan driver would hand over to a depot driver?
Leaving the depot would the depot driver bring the train as far as signal WN67?
Further to what I said in post #56, there are now three training diagrams per day booked to run out of Springs Branch, SuX, 16/12/19 to 16/5/20. They're not likely to all operate, of course, and they certainly won't all operate as scheduled, especially since one unit drops off the system at Blackpool North at 1539, only to be replaced by one which miraculously appears out of nowhere an hour and a half earlier. All diagrams are timed for 100 mph DMUs, so presumably 195s.
All the training runs involve shuttling between Blackpool North and Kirkham & Wesham, or Preston, or Wigan North Western, or St Helens Central, or Liverpool Lime Street.
Further to what I said in post #56, there are now three training diagrams per day booked to run out of Springs Branch, SuX, 16/12/19 to 16/5/20. They're not likely to all operate, of course, and they certainly won't all operate as scheduled, especially since one unit drops off the system at Blackpool North at 1539, only to be replaced by one which miraculously appears out of nowhere an hour and a half earlier. On Saturdays (when there are slight differences to the diagrams), one unit disappears at St Helens Central, but it would only be due to return to Springs Branch from there anyway.
The third returning EMU diagram (which, like one of the others, comes ECS from Blackpool North) has now been also loaded in respect of Mondays to Fridays.
So that leaves the current state of play as follows.
Mondays to Fridays: 3 DMU & 2 EMU diagrams departing, 3 DMU & 3 EMU diagrams returning.
Saturdays: 3 DMU & 1 EMU diagrams departing, 3 DMU & 3 EMU diagrams returning.
There's no sign of any of the departing EMUs being formed of double units, so there's presumably some changes still to be made.
I was hoping to be able to predict what stock would finish at the depot by catching up with the relevant diagrams earlier in the evening but, courtesy of Northern cancelling trains left, right, and centre, I only managed to spot one set out of the four scheduled to finish there. The one set that I did see (a double 150/1) was itself terminated at Oxford Road on its last service journey (to Southport); it apparently then went ECS to Victoria. If I had to guess, I would say that it finished up at Newton Heath, so I think it now doubtful that it will get to Springs Branch, it's quite likely that it will be sent ECS to Southport directly from Newton Heath on Monday morning - and, bearing in mind the class of stock, I certainly think it is most likely that the Southport start is what it will go on.
Surprisingly common, that.I thought it unlikely that 2-car sets would go on Wigan - Leeds in the morning peak.
Is the 05:35 Wigan NW to Liverpool in your post above not a double unit currently? Hasn't someone elsewhere suggested that a train runs with a unit locked out currently?
I've checked it through and can't find any sign that the 05.35 is a double unit. It currently comes ECS from Preston Croft Street sidings, two EMU sets arrive there in an evening and two depart in a morning. That doesn't prove that one of the arriving sets isn't a double, but if it were there wouldn't appear to be any sense in it.
I've also checked the train's arrival at Lime Street, it currently does 0645 Wigan, from December it does 0636 Blackpool, in neither instance is there any sign of the train splitting into two.
There's now only one more service diagram scheduled to leave Springs this morning, that goes to do 0806 Wigan North Western - Liverpool Lime Street via Newton-le-Willows. I don't see any problem there, there should be an EMU on depot at the moment.
Wasn't paying much attention to types but 3 CAF units on SP on Monday at 19:00.
Wigan North Western station was closed for a while yesterday morning due to having been ram-raided.Fun and games (not) this morning with the Springs Branch starts. Of the EMU duties the one forming the 0535 Wigan - Liverpool left Springs Branch in plenty of time but didn't depart Wigan NW until 0602 and even then it ran ECS to Bryn, from where it ran in service to Liverpool. The reason for it not running as scheduled was given by Northern as vandalism, which seems odd in the circumstances.
Wigan North Western station was closed for a while yesterday morning due to having been ram-raided.
I've no idea, from the pictures I've seen it looks like it was largely unsuccessful other than causing a lot of damage to the station entrance hall.Thanks for that, the problem did appear to be something to do with the station rather than the trains. Did they get away with anything?
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Seems to have led to one Leeds service cancelled (0656 from Wigan) one of the Wigan - Lime Street diagrams being cancelled (0751 Wigan - Liv and the return 0845) and several short forms plus one cancellation on Southport - Stalybridge / Alderley Edge services. However, things do by and large seem to be coping*.Only Springs Branch diagrams are affected. Even then, a DMU appears to have 'escaped' and made it to Wigan North Western and done its scheduled 0556 to Leeds. So that leaves 3 EMU and 2 DMU trapped at Springs Branch.
Seems to have led to one Leeds service cancelled (0656 from Wigan) one of the Wigan - Lime Street diagrams being cancelled (0751 Wigan - Liv and the return 0845) and several short forms plus one cancellation on Southport - Stalybridge / Alderley Edge services. However, things do by and large seem to be coping*.
* Though less so if you live in Westhoughton, Farnworth, Kearsley, or Moses Gate, where you've had a 90 minute - 2 hour gap in service.
Possibly control knew in advance that the Victoria driver was known not to sign splitting of 319s.It's a little suspicious that 5C00, 0511 Springs Branch - Wigan North Western ECS, which is diagrammed for a double EMU (splitting at WGN into 2C00 0535 Wigan - Liverpool and 2C90 0551 Wigan - Liverpool) should this morning should be VSTP'd into two separate ECS workings - both were cancelled, though. The extra working was activated at 0305, suggesting the possibility of whatever happened at the depot had already happened by that time.