Northern Pacer Diagrams - Summer 2020

[Murray J]

Moderator note: Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/northern-pacer-withdrawals-info.166981

i've been sent this by a friend on discord, which shows the 142 diagrams he's managed to find using known ECS movements.

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1.

5S01 Stockport Car MD to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40215/2020-07-06/detailed

2S01 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41021/2020-07-06/detailed

2S02 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41022/2020-07-06/detailed

2S05 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41023/2020-07-06/detailed

2S06 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41024/2020-07-06/detailed

2S11 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41026/2020-07-06/detailed

2S10 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41025/2020-07-06/detailed

2S15 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41028/2020-07-06/detailed

2S14 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41027/2020-07-06/detailed

2S19 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41030/2020-07-06/detailed

2S18 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41029/2020-07-06/detailed

2S23 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41031/2020-07-06/detailed

2S78 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41227/2020-07-06/detailed

2S73 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41052/2020-07-06/detailed

2S84 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41232/2020-07-06/detailed

2S79 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41228/2020-07-06/detailed

5J79 Manchester Piccadilly - Rochdale https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41114/2020-07-06/detailed

2.

*6/7/20 only - 5B60 Newton Heath TMD - Rochdale https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S00197/2020-07-06/detailed*

2J60 Rochdale to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40150/2020-07-06/detailed

2J20 Manchester Victoria to Rochdale https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40144/2020-07-06/detailed

2J61 Rochdale to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40151/2020-07-06/detailed

5J61 Manchester Victoria to Newton Heath TMD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40167/2020-07-06/detailed

3.

5Y90 Newton Heath TMD to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41157/2020-07-06/detailed

2K61 Manchester Victoria to Kirkby https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40960/2020-07-06/detailed

2J31 Kirkby to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40916/2020-07-06/detailed

5K64 Manchester Victoria to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41128/2020-07-06/detailed

2K64 Manchester Victoria to Kirkby https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40966/2020-07-06/detailed

2J34 Kirkby to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40921/2020-07-06/detailed

5K67 Manchester Victoria to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41131/2020-07-06/detailed

2K67 Manchester Victoria to Kirkby https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40969/2020-07-06/detailed

2J37 Kirkby to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40924/2020-07-06/detailed

5K60 Manchester Victoria to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41123/2020-07-06/detailed

2K60 Manchester Victoria to Kirkby https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40959/2020-07-06/detailed

2J30 Kirkby to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40915/2020-07-06/detailed

5F82 Manchester Victoria to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41089/2020-07-06/detailed

2K63 Manchester Victoria to Kirkby https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40965/2020-07-06/detailed

2N95 Kirkby to Blackburn https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41002/2020-07-06/detailed

2L87 Blackburn to Manchester Victoria https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40974/2020-07-06/detailed

5J24 Manchester Victoria to Newton Heath TMD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41106/2020-07-06/detailed

4.

5H22 Newton Heath TMD to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40208/2020-07-07/detailed

2S22 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40203/2020-07-07/detailed

5S52 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40213/2020-07-07/detailed

2S28 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40204/2020-07-07/detailed

2S29 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41033/2020-07-07/detailed

2S34 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41035/2020-07-07/detailed

2S33 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41034/2020-07-07/detailed

2S88 Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41055/2020-07-07/detailed

2S37 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41036/2020-07-07/detailed

5H37 Manchester Piccadilly to Longsight Car MD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41213/2020-07-07/detailed

5.

5R00 Longsight Car MD to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41147/2020-07-06/detailed

2R00 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40626/2020-07-06/detailed

2H52 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40439/2020-07-06/detailed

2R04 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40628/2020-07-06/detailed

2H56 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40441/2020-07-06/detailed

2R08 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40630/2020-07-06/detailed

2H60 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40443/2020-07-06/detailed

2R12 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40632/2020-07-06/detailed

2H64 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40445/2020-07-06/detailed

2R16 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40634/2020-07-06/detailed

2H68 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40447/2020-07-06/detailed

2R20 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40636/2020-07-06/detailed

2H72 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40449/2020-07-06/detailed

2R24 Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40638/2020-07-06/detailed

2H76 Rose Hill Marple to Manchester Piccadilly https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S40450/2020-07-06/detailed
5H76 Manchester Piccadilly to Stockport Car MD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S41234/2020-07-06/detailed

 

[pauljclark555]

Will the Pacers be working on Saturdays on the Sheffield route? Do we know yet on how many carriages per train? I'm in the vulnerable category and don't want to travel through Manchester on Mon-Fri's

 

[The Northern Star]

Will the Pacers be working on Saturdays on the Sheffield route? Do we know yet on how many carriages per train? I'm in the vulnerable category and don't want to travel through Manchester on Mon-Fri's

There are diagrams in for Saturdays, but not received them yet. I'll chase it up.

 

[Bow Fell]

Mon-Friday at least 1649 Sheffield is a 142+150.

1 on Kirkby - Man Vic (07:36, 10:36 ex-Kirkby etc)

1 on Rose Hill (even departures from Picc, odd hour departures from Rose Hill)

1 on New Mills all day

1 on PM peak New Mills

1 on AM/PM peak Man Vic-Rochdale sitting at NH in between.

All the above coupled to a 150

 

[Adam0984]

Will the Pacers be working on Saturdays on the Sheffield route? Do we know yet on how many carriages per train? I'm in the vulnerable category and don't want to travel through Manchester on Mon-Fri's

Saturdays have the potential to be busier than weekdays especially if its nice weather and all the people going walking in the Peak District

 

[Killingworth]

Saturdays have the potential to be busier than weekdays especially if its nice weather and all the people going walking in the Peak District

Curiously this Saturday gone was the first recent day when I've seen a 2 car train on the Hope Valley route, but it still had plenty of space - although the rear carriage looked relatively the fuller of the two. The "essential travel only" message has sunk in, and the fear must be that it has sunk in very deep!

 

[Jamesrob637]

Curiously this Saturday gone was the first recent day when I've seen a 2 car train on the Hope Valley route, but it still had plenty of space - although the rear carriage looked relatively the fuller of the two. The "essential travel only" message has sunk in, and the fear must be that it has sunk in very deep!

I think that was booked 4 though as there was one on Journey Check yesterday around the middle of the day.

 

[The Northern Star]

Today's allocations @ 0300

Diagram 501 (142087 + 150117)
2K61 MANCR VIC 06:15 KIRKBY 07:22

Diagram 502 (Nothing allocated @ 0300)
2S22 MANCR PIC 16:20 NEWMLSCEN 16:52

Diagram 503 (150110 + 150118)
2R00 MANCR PIC 06:33 ROSEHLLMP 07:05

Diagram 504 (142004 + 150109)
2S01 NEWMLSCEN 06:04 MANCR PIC 06:40

Diagram 505 (142068 + 150144)
2J60 ROCHDALE 06:42 MANCR VIC 07:03

All subject to change.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Partially related to Pacers but everything diesel around Manchester should be booked at least 4-car during this timetable if Pacers are helping out and with a fair few services still missing.

There is a 5 vice 6 this morning but I don't think that involves a Pacer as it's a Manchester Airport to Liverpool Lime Street so will be 2+3 195 vice 2×3 195.

 

[The Northern Star]

Pacer allocations only @ 0630.

Diagram 501 (142068 + 15x)
2K61 MANCR VIC 06:15 KIRKBY 07:22

Diagram 404 (142004 + 15x)
2J60 ROCHDALE 06:42 MANCR VIC 07:03

 

[irish_rail]

Anyone able to provide the 142 allocations today?? Many thanks.

 

[Murray J]

142004 is on diagram 1 (referring to this document https://pastebin.com/ZLxp01vZ)
142087 is on diagram 5 (also referring to the pastebin document)

 

[Jamesrob637]

Should we have a separate thread entitled "Northern Pacer Diagrams" maybe under Coronavirus or maybe under "Allocations, Diagrams and Timetables?" And mods move posts accordingly?

Technically this thread is about Pacers going off the rails not back onto them

 

[mjn]

142004 is on diagram 1 (referring to this document https://pastebin.com/ZLxp01vZ)
142087 is on diagram 5 (also referring to the pastebin document)

Interested to see what pops up on the 5H22 Newton Heath - Piccadilly ECS move (via the world and Huddersfield) aswell, as that's thrown a pacer up the last two days. Was 087 yesterday.

 

[irish_rail]

142004 is on diagram 1 (referring to this document https://pastebin.com/ZLxp01vZ)
142087 is on diagram 5 (also referring to the pastebin document)

Many thanks

 

[Y961 XBU]

I assume there are still more Pacers to return as i keep seeing only the same 3 Mentioned

 

[Murray J]

I assume there are still more Pacers to return as i keep seeing only the same 3 Mentioned

I believe there are 12 that Northern have dispensations for, but only 7 are currently in position physically to enter service so i've been told.

 

[mjn]

5H22 is 071 making an appearance. On the front outbound with a GWR sprinter in tow. Pure bliss. Just like the old days!

 

[The Northern Star]

1549 MAN - SHF is 142087 and 150201.
1649 MAN - SHF is 150128 & 222.

Take note.

 

[The Northern Star]

Glad to see some spotters out for 142087. Here's the latest gen for tomorrow. Subject to change and some others could drop. Correct as of 1800 (10/07/20)

142058 plus PRM unit.

5R00 LGSIGHTCS 06:12 MANCR PIC 06:23

2R00 MANCR PIC 06:33 ROSEHLLMP 07:05

2H52 ROSEHLLMP 07:13 MANCR PIC 07:46

2R04 MANCR PIC 08:40 ROSEHLLMP 09:10

2H56 ROSEHLLMP 09:19 MANCR PIC 09:51

2R08 MANCR PIC 10:44 ROSEHLLMP 11:15

2H60 ROSEHLLMP 11:19 MANCR PIC 11:51

2R12 MANCR PIC 12:44 ROSEHLLMP 13:15

2H64 ROSEHLLMP 13:19 MANCR PIC 13:51

2R16 MANCR PIC 14:44 ROSEHLLMP 15:15

2H68 ROSEHLLMP 15:19 MANCR PIC 15:51

2R20 MANCR PIC 16:44 ROSEHLLMP 17:16

2H72 ROSEHLLMP 17:19 MANCR PIC 17:51

2R24 MANCR PIC 18:35 ROSEHLLMP 19:06

2H76 ROSEHLLMP 19:19 MANCR PIC 19:51

5H76 MANCR PIC 20:11 STOCKPTCS 21:12


142071 plus PRM unit.

5S01 STOCKPTCS 05:10 NEWMLSCEN 06:03

2S01 NEWMLSCEN 06:04 MANCR PIC 06:40

2S02 MANCR PIC 06:49 NEWMLSCEN 07:20

2S05 NEWMLSCEN 07:25 MANCR PIC 07:58

2S06 MANCR PIC 08:19 NEWMLSCEN 08:50

2S11 NEWMLSCEN 09:34 MANCR PIC 10:07

2S10 MANCR PIC 10:19 NEWMLSCEN 10:51

2S15 NEWMLSCEN 11:34 MANCR PIC 12:07

2S14 MANCR PIC 12:19 NEWMLSCEN 12:51

2S19 NEWMLSCEN 13:34 MANCR PIC 14:07

2S18 MANCR PIC 14:19 NEWMLSCEN 14:51

2S23 NEWMLSCEN 15:34 MANCR PIC 16:07

2S78 MANCR PIC 16:49 SHEFFIELD 18:10

2S73 SHEFFIELD 18:14 MANCR PIC 19:34

2S84 MANCR PIC 19:49 SHEFFIELD 20:57

2S79 SHEFFIELD 21:14 MANCR PIC 22:32

5J79 MANCR PIC 22:36 ROCHDALE 23:07

 

[Jamesrob637]

Glad to see some spotters out for 142087. Here's the latest gen for tomorrow. Subject to change and some others could drop. Correct as of 1800 (10/07/20)

142058 plus PRM unit.

5R00 LGSIGHTCS 06:12 MANCR PIC 06:23

2R00 MANCR PIC 06:33 ROSEHLLMP 07:05

2H52 ROSEHLLMP 07:13 MANCR PIC 07:46

2R04 MANCR PIC 08:40 ROSEHLLMP 09:10

2H56 ROSEHLLMP 09:19 MANCR PIC 09:51

2R08 MANCR PIC 10:44 ROSEHLLMP 11:15

2H60 ROSEHLLMP 11:19 MANCR PIC 11:51

2R12 MANCR PIC 12:44 ROSEHLLMP 13:15

2H64 ROSEHLLMP 13:19 MANCR PIC 13:51

2R16 MANCR PIC 14:44 ROSEHLLMP 15:15

2H68 ROSEHLLMP 15:19 MANCR PIC 15:51

2R20 MANCR PIC 16:44 ROSEHLLMP 17:16

2H72 ROSEHLLMP 17:19 MANCR PIC 17:51

2R24 MANCR PIC 18:35 ROSEHLLMP 19:06

2H76 ROSEHLLMP 19:19 MANCR PIC 19:51

5H76 MANCR PIC 20:11 STOCKPTCS 21:12


142071 plus PRM unit.

5S01 STOCKPTCS 05:10 NEWMLSCEN 06:03

2S01 NEWMLSCEN 06:04 MANCR PIC 06:40

2S02 MANCR PIC 06:49 NEWMLSCEN 07:20

2S05 NEWMLSCEN 07:25 MANCR PIC 07:58

2S06 MANCR PIC 08:19 NEWMLSCEN 08:50

2S11 NEWMLSCEN 09:34 MANCR PIC 10:07

2S10 MANCR PIC 10:19 NEWMLSCEN 10:51

2S15 NEWMLSCEN 11:34 MANCR PIC 12:07

2S14 MANCR PIC 12:19 NEWMLSCEN 12:51

2S19 NEWMLSCEN 13:34 MANCR PIC 14:07

2S18 MANCR PIC 14:19 NEWMLSCEN 14:51

2S23 NEWMLSCEN 15:34 MANCR PIC 16:07

2S78 MANCR PIC 16:49 SHEFFIELD 18:10

2S73 SHEFFIELD 18:14 MANCR PIC 19:34

2S84 MANCR PIC 19:49 SHEFFIELD 20:57

2S79 SHEFFIELD 21:14 MANCR PIC 22:32

5J79 MANCR PIC 22:36 ROCHDALE 23:07

Only two or are those the only two you know of?

 

[The Northern Star]

Only two or are those the only two you know of?

Only two currently that's been planned in control.
I might do a update @ 0300 tomorrow morning, or earlier, if that's helpful?

 

[Jamesrob637]

Only two currently that's been planned in control.
I might do a update @ 0300 tomorrow morning, or earlier, if that's helpful?

Only if you're up at 3am I've heard they're set to stay until NYE so no immediate rush. Sheffield on a Pacer might grate me after 10 minutes but somewhere like Romiley might be a pleasant hop.

 

[The Northern Star]

Glad to see some spotters out for 142087. Here's the latest gen for tomorrow. Subject to change and some others could drop. Correct as of 1800 (10/07/20)

142058 plus PRM unit.

5R00 LGSIGHTCS 06:12 MANCR PIC 06:23

2R00 MANCR PIC 06:33 ROSEHLLMP 07:05

2H52 ROSEHLLMP 07:13 MANCR PIC 07:46

2R04 MANCR PIC 08:40 ROSEHLLMP 09:10

2H56 ROSEHLLMP 09:19 MANCR PIC 09:51

2R08 MANCR PIC 10:44 ROSEHLLMP 11:15

2H60 ROSEHLLMP 11:19 MANCR PIC 11:51

2R12 MANCR PIC 12:44 ROSEHLLMP 13:15

2H64 ROSEHLLMP 13:19 MANCR PIC 13:51

2R16 MANCR PIC 14:44 ROSEHLLMP 15:15

2H68 ROSEHLLMP 15:19 MANCR PIC 15:51

2R20 MANCR PIC 16:44 ROSEHLLMP 17:16

2H72 ROSEHLLMP 17:19 MANCR PIC 17:51

2R24 MANCR PIC 18:35 ROSEHLLMP 19:06

2H76 ROSEHLLMP 19:19 MANCR PIC 19:51

5H76 MANCR PIC 20:11 STOCKPTCS 21:12


142071 plus PRM unit.

5S01 STOCKPTCS 05:10 NEWMLSCEN 06:03

2S01 NEWMLSCEN 06:04 MANCR PIC 06:40

2S02 MANCR PIC 06:49 NEWMLSCEN 07:20

2S05 NEWMLSCEN 07:25 MANCR PIC 07:58

2S06 MANCR PIC 08:19 NEWMLSCEN 08:50

2S11 NEWMLSCEN 09:34 MANCR PIC 10:07

2S10 MANCR PIC 10:19 NEWMLSCEN 10:51

2S15 NEWMLSCEN 11:34 MANCR PIC 12:07

2S14 MANCR PIC 12:19 NEWMLSCEN 12:51

2S19 NEWMLSCEN 13:34 MANCR PIC 14:07

2S18 MANCR PIC 14:19 NEWMLSCEN 14:51

2S23 NEWMLSCEN 15:34 MANCR PIC 16:07

2S78 MANCR PIC 16:49 SHEFFIELD 18:10

2S73 SHEFFIELD 18:14 MANCR PIC 19:34

2S84 MANCR PIC 19:49 SHEFFIELD 20:57

2S79 SHEFFIELD 21:14 MANCR PIC 22:32

5J79 MANCR PIC 22:36 ROCHDALE 23:07

No updates currently! Still down for the two diagrams posted by me @ 1802 yesterday.

 

[mjn]

Just to confirm that 058 is on the diagram above. Just saw it on the 2R00 whilst out running.

 

[The Northern Star]

According to Web Gemini @ 1215. Next workings...

142071 + PRM Unit: 2R12 MANCR PIC 12:44 ROSEHLLMP 13:15

142058 + PRM Unit: 2S14 MANCR PIC 12:19 NEWMLSCEN 12:51

Basically they've swapped them. I shall go and check 2S78 later.

 

[bristollh]

142090 working 1515 Victoria to Kirkby with a compliant unit. Five out of every six seats marked out of use.....

Jeff

 

[ed1971]

There are two 142s on the Manchester Vic to Kirkby route today, 142068 is on the circa 13:36 from Kirkby and another one on the 14:36. Does anyone have the unit number please?

 

[7522]

Does anyone have diagrams for today thanks?

 

[sd0733]

Almost like the old days at Piccadilly this afternoon
Using RTT it looks like plat 1 (071) is on 16:20 New Mills, plat 2 (058) on 16:44 Rose Hill and plat 3 (065) on 16:49 Sheffield