To frighten people into compliance regarding lockdown.Why did the government try to exaggerate the deaths?
To frighten people into compliance regarding lockdown.Why did the government try to exaggerate the deaths?
Which is why the narrative was all about the reducing number of deaths?To frighten people into compliance regarding lockdown.
Big questions about death reasons on death certsIt really shouldn't be difficult to put together a system to collate this - all deaths have to be registered, so they could instruct the registrars to send this information once a week, or whatever.
And only 11 deaths today. The deaths now really are incredibly low.
BUT unfortunately a sharp rise in new cases today to 1,441. Wouldn't be too surprised if Boris takes some urgent action on that. Godknows what that will be!
Research has shown no-one has contracted COVID while standing on one leg.
So now while in the supermarket queue, you have to stand on one leg.
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epAnd why, if the government in England were too dim to realise someone testing positive in March who got hit by a bus in May might *not* have died of Covid, didn’t the medical advisers, or people in the other nations point out the methodology may inflate the death toll?
But in reality, and taken in context with other virus's we have had, was the the death toll that high? It certainly sounded high when given as a totalResearch has shown no-one has contracted COVID while standing on one leg.
So now while in the supermarket queue, you have to stand on one leg.
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In 2018 my wife had flu, which is of course a cornavirus, and that did develop into pneumonia, and was seriously ill in Hospital, I too had flu, but no such thing as self-isloation, so probably gave it to a few more !Well, because it's true whereas saying the numbers are just flu is not true.
And because if it is just flu it would mean that one viral infection (or rather a set of related viral infections) were causing more deaths than the coronavirus.
But pneumonia is not necessarily caused by a virus.
In 2018 my wife had flu, which is of course a cornavirus,
Everyone nation seems to have a different view of what to record.And why, if the government in England were too dim to realise someone testing positive in March who got hit by a bus in May might *not* have died of Covid, didn’t the medical advisers, or people in the other nations point out the methodology may inflate the death toll?
BUT unfortunately a sharp rise in new cases today to 1,441. Wouldn't be too surprised if Boris takes some urgent action on that. Godknows what that will be!
He'll have been party to that information way before we were, yet still went ahead with the lockdown relaxation. You don't think that finally he's twigged that these figures are not translating into hospital admissions, ventilated patients and deaths?
Still only 0.9% of tests returned positive though, which ultimately is a better figure to focus on.BUT unfortunately a sharp rise in new cases today to 1,441. Wouldn't be too surprised if Boris takes some urgent action on that. Godknows what that will be!
sorry my mistake, just seen this ...It's not.
The interesting thing about the death certificates being overly cautious about COVID means that if it was the case and significantly fewer people died of COVID than our numbers actually say, what exactly was killing those people back in April/May. There is still a huge number of excess deaths which can't be explained away by saying "oh it wasn't COVID" - if anything it makes the lockdown look even worse
Even now GP surgeries are no go areas. as are hospitals. Where are all the people who used to be at the GP getting stuff done?
Other flu like illnesses, which people didnt get treated, and loads of people not getting medical assistance for stuff they should have. So people may have been dying at home of heart disease, strokes etc.
Even now GP surgeries are no go areas. as are hospitals. Where are all the people who used to be at the GP getting stuff done?
Early winter was a low death one. so flu was killing less people than normal. A bit of flu in march with limited medical support would mean a few old people would die, people who probably would have dies earlier if there had been a bad flu strain around then.
Remember, tens of thousands of people die of Flu each year in UK. In 2017/18 it was 26408, though that was a bad year.
The flu vaccine’s failure to protect against some of the key strains of the infection contributed to more than 50,000 “extra” deaths in England and Wales last winter, according to data from the Office of National Statistics.
It was the worst winter on record for more than 40 years, with the 1975-76 season being the last time deaths climbed so high above the expected levels.
The NHS was rocked by a record winter crisis in early 2018, with a massive rise in flu cases and sub-zero temperatures triggered by the Beast from the East storm, which added further to death rates.
That's certainly not true where I am.
You do need to talk to a GP on the phone first, and if your symptoms are remotely Covid-y they want you to get a Covid test before you come in, but they aren't "no-go" areas.
I can promise you it is the case we I am, my wife is currently trying to get follow-up care from a broken collar bone and our local GP practice is most definitely still closed.
That is utterly dreadful and I hope is the exception not the rule (and that you can get something sorted out soon).
They may not be exactly no go areas but very difficult to access, although ours does at least no longer look how I imagine the lobby of Porton Down looks any longer.That's certainly not true where I am.
You do need to talk to a GP on the phone first, and if your symptoms are remotely Covid-y they want you to get a Covid test before you come in, but they aren't "no-go" areas.
Still only 0.9% of tests returned positive though, which ultimately is a better figure to focus on.
Perhaps they’ll target testing in areas that have hitherto had low case numbers. Got to keep Project Fear going, somehowAnd only 11 deaths today. The deaths now really are incredibly low.
BUT unfortunately a sharp rise in new cases today to 1,441. Wouldn't be too surprised if Boris takes some urgent action on that. Godknows what that will be!
Some of those excess deaths will be from untreated cancers. How many, I couldn’t begin to guess.The interesting thing about the death certificates being overly cautious about COVID means that if it was the case and significantly fewer people died of COVID than our numbers actually say, what exactly was killing those people back in April/May. There is still a huge number of excess deaths which can't be explained away by saying "oh it wasn't COVID" - if anything it makes the lockdown look even worse
Winter routinely causes 30k excess deaths (average 39k over 5 years, defined as compared with previous/following quarter) so max 20k deaths can be attributed to fluWell we can at least take comfort that the great lockdown of 2017/18 only resulted in close to 50K excess deaths. Oh wait.....
Ineffective flu vaccine contributed to 50,000 extra deaths last winter
Human suffering and lost lives over winter 'predictable, preventable and shameful', fuel poverty campaigners saywww.independent.co.uk
And for context this was with a vaccine!
I can promise you it is the case we I am, my wife is currently trying to get follow-up care from a broken collar bone and our local GP practice is most definitely still closed.