GWR Class 769 information. (Units no longer with GWR - Off Lease March 23)

[spark001uk]

Could it be 387 driver training?

 

[JN114]

Could it be 387 driver training?

It is

 

[FGW_DID]

387 Driver Training Runs, diagrammed M-F all the way up to Xmas Eve.

 

[Melancholia]

Thanks

 

[7 Ingleborough]

According to the latest internal Fleet Update, four class 769s for GWR are now completed. All four to commence 'fault free mileage' running in January.

 

[FGW_DID]

GWR‘s 769930 & 769946 should be delivered to Reading TCD by this time next week. Delivery on 11th & 12th (Loco-hauled).

769943 which is currently at Reading is allegedly making the reverse journey and heading back to Burton. (No idea what the issue is!)

 

[Melancholia]

Interesting. Are GBRf doing the honours again?

 

[FGW_DID]

Interesting. Are GBRf doing the honours again?

It was GBRF last time (with the two 50s) so presume it would be GBRF again.

 

[spark001uk]

Though I'm guessing now we're back in a full on lockdown any further training will be suspended?

 

[KT530]

Though I'm guessing now we're back in a full on lockdown any further training will be suspended?

Bubbles have been in place since September for training, so won’t be affected.

If anything, will be easier as currently significantly overstaffed due to service reductions.

As others have said above, GB Railfreight will be undertaking the fault free running before any crew training takes place.

 

[MatthewRead]

When will entry into service be?

 

[JN114]

When will entry into service be?

After enough units have been accepted, undergone fault free running, and sufficient drivers trained.

The current pandemic situation, including the latest lockdowns; make all three of those tasks harder.

 

[Clarence Yard]

When will entry into service be?

May 2021 at the earliest, I would have thought, if fault free running hasn’t started yet. And that date only holds good if proper driver training starts in about March but before that you have to train the trainers.

 

[adc82140]

May 2021 at the earliest, I would have thought, if fault free running hasn’t started yet. And that date only holds good if proper driver training starts in about March but before that you have to train the trainers.

Drifting slightly off topic, who trains the trainers?

 

[spark001uk]

After enough units have been accepted, undergone fault free running, and sufficient drivers trained.

The current pandemic situation, including the latest lockdowns; make all three of those tasks harder.

That's what I thought, but according to #460 it's not an issue.

 

[OTRail]

Drifting slightly off topic, who trains the trainers?

The engineers at Porterbrook/Brush Traction I’m guessing, as they converted the units. I can imagine some Thameslink staff as well as it is, in most senses, still a 319 (just with the addition of diesel engines)

 

[JN114]

The engineers at Porterbrook/Brush Traction I’m guessing, as they converted the units. I can imagine some Thameslink staff as well as it is, in most senses, still a 319 (just with the addition of diesel engines)

Thameslink haven’t had 319s in what, 3, 4 years? Unlikely they’d be involved. Northern/West Midlands much more likely, but this time round they’re not.

While your rank and file ordinary drivers will generally receive peer to peer training, ultimately that isn’t always practical - think about it, who trains the trainers on all-new types? Which is why, subject to appropriate risk assessment and mitigation, it’s perfectly legal for senior training staff to essentially train themselves with just manufacturer produced classroom material - a number of senior competence managers at GWR did 319 classroom and handling, so they’re not starting from absolutely nothing.

 

[FGW_DID]

A couple of Driver Comp Managers and the Depot Training Manager went up to Allerton for 319/769 training.

GWR‘s 769930 & 769946 should be delivered to Reading TCD by this time next week. Delivery on 11th & 12th (Loco-hauled).

769943 which is currently at Reading is allegedly making the reverse journey and heading back to Burton. (No idea what the issue is!)

Deliveries have been pushed back 48 hours. Now Wednesday & Thursday.

On the Bus, Off the Bus! Hurry up and ………………wait!

 

[FenMan]

Is this diagram related in any way to the introduction of the 769s?

Realtime Trains - 024U 0939 Reading Triangle Sidings to Guildford U.C.H.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[JonathanH]

Is this diagram related in any way to the introduction of the 769s?

Realtime Trains - 024U 0939 Reading Triangle Sidings to Guildford U.C.H.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Seems unlikely that anything associated with GWR would be using Reading Triangle Sidings.

37610 on driver route learning for Colas reported elsewhere.

 

[spark001uk]

Seems unlikely that anything associated with GWR would be using Reading Triangle Sidings.

37610 on driver route learning for Colas reported elsewhere.

Correct. Also 0F03 onwards from Guildford to Eastleigh.

 

[Bob Price]

A couple of Driver Comp Managers and the Depot Training Manager went up to Allerton for 319/769 training.



Deliveries have been pushed back 48 hours. Now Wednesday & Thursday.

On the Bus, Off the Bus! Hurry up and ………………wait!

Do you know what the start location is? Last time it was Burton sidings.

 

[JonathanH]

Do you know what the start location is? Last time it was Burton sidings.

The paths are already in for the moves on Wednesday and Thursday from Burton sidings (which is where the 769s are reported to be):

Wednesday 13 January
0641 Leicester L.I.P. to Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings (light engine)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R03820/2021-01-13/detailed

0947 Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings to Reading Traincare Depot
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K28427/2021-01-13/detailed

1538 Reading Traincare Depot to Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04508/2021-01-13/detailed

Thursday 14 January
0947 Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings to Reading Traincare Depot
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C24456/2021-01-14/detailed

1425 Reading Traincare Depot to Wembley H.S.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R93821/2021-01-14/detailed

 

[Bob Price]

Thanks. Sadly not passing any webcams but I guess someone may be out for their daly exercise

 

[Roast Veg]

Thameslink haven’t had 319s in what, 3, 4 years? Unlikely they’d be involved. Northern/West Midlands much more likely, but this time round they’re not.

While your rank and file ordinary drivers will generally receive peer to peer training, ultimately that isn’t always practical - think about it, who trains the trainers on all-new types? Which is why, subject to appropriate risk assessment and mitigation, it’s perfectly legal for senior training staff to essentially train themselves with just manufacturer produced classroom material - a number of senior competence managers at GWR did 319 classroom and handling, so they’re not starting from absolutely nothing.

When the S Stock was first delivered, and even before it was delivered, Bombardier distributed technical material to London Underground and offered those writing training material the change to drive a unit at Old Dalby. I would imagine Wabtec to have arranged for quite a few people to get behind the controls and in all the cupboards, even if the unit went nowhere.

 

[warwickshire]

Today's move Wednesday 13th January 2020. Was 37884 on front with 769930 on rear just left banbury going onto reading.

 

[JonathanH]

Reported elsewhere as 37884 and 769930 on delivery to Reading (and 769943 going back to Burton). Hopefully this one will be allowed out of the depot in due course. I assume that having a 'friend' capable of rescuing it (ie tomorrow's delivery) will permit this.

 

[warwickshire]

Just to confirm this evening (Wednesday 13th January 2021) 37884 did take 769443 back to Burton from Great Westerns Railway Depot at Reading.

 

[83G/84D]

37884 on the way to Reading Traincare with 769936 shown in consist.

 

[fgwrich]

Reported elsewhere as 37884 and 769930 on delivery to Reading (and 769943 going back to Burton). Hopefully this one will be allowed out of the depot in due course. I assume that having a 'friend' capable of rescuing it (ie tomorrow's delivery) will permit this.

I believe they need 3 units at the depot to allow one to go out and about - the second and presumably third required in case the first fails.