Disruption on Sunday/Monday if England win

[johncrossley]

Is there likely to be train disruption on Monday if England win the match on Sunday? For example due to train staff being unavailable or as a result of a decision from the Prime Minister to grant a holiday on Monday?

 

[175001]

No such thing as a bank holiday on the railway. Carry on as normal

 

[Bletchleyite]

A public holiday won't be granted at this short notice.

I suspect there will be increased "sickness absence" and almost no rest day working volunteers, so yes, disruption.

 

[Bald Rick]

Monday won’t be an issue. Sunday afternoon, however...

 

[bramling]

A public holiday won't be granted at this short notice.

I suspect there will be increased "sickness absence" and almost no rest day working volunteers, so yes, disruption.

I’d agree Sunday could be interesting. However, except where there’s the “Sunday outside the roster” arrangements, Saturdays tend to be worse when it comes to uncovered duties, due to falling at the end of the railway week, so there being a tendency to pinch coverage for the weekdays.

 

[Mag_seven]

a decision from the Prime Minister to grant a holiday on Monday?

Why would the PM grant a holiday on Monday as a result of a football match?

As others have said Sunday afternoon/evening for TOCs with voluntary Sunday working might be an issue especially for fans travelling to and from the match.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Why would the PM grant a holiday on Monday as a result of a football match?

Er... because he's a buffoon who will do almost anything if he thinks it'll improve his image? [/cynic]

 

[175001]

Surprised its not been picked up on here yet regarding the publicised reduction of services on Sunday in the North West...

 

[Nova1]

Might be one for a seperate thread, but West Midlands railway has already been having crew shortage issues over the past couple of years, and this has got really, really bad on days when England has been playing. I expect they are relying on overtime to run the timetable?

 

[175001]

Indeed. Most TOCs rely on overtime to keep even a weekday timetable running!

 

[Horizon22]

GWR already pre-cancelling services for Sunday.

 

[Watershed]

I would expect significant disruption on Sunday. TOCs reliant on RDW to cover Sundays are likely to fare the worst, but even then, there may be short notice 'sickness' cancellations.

It was bad enough on Wednesday with the semi-final so I would really avoid travelling on Sunday, if you can help it.

 

[nlogax]

Looking forward to business as usual on Scotrail next week.

 

[Trackman]

A public holiday won't be granted at this short notice.

I suspect there will be increased "sickness absence" and almost no rest day working volunteers, so yes, disruption.

I agree, you can't say at the last thing Sunday night the day after will be a bank holiday. Did France do it in 1998??
What I am seeing, some non-railway related businesses are letting people start later or if they win they can have the day off. Some schools are starting at 10.30 too.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Going to be carnage on Sunday if travelling by rail

 

[Mag_seven]

Going to be carnage on Sunday if travelling by rail

Yes I can see a lot of negative publicity for the railway on Sunday particularly if fans who are travelling to Wembley by rail can't get to or get back from the match.

 

[Nova1]

There's a handful of planned engineering works that will impact WMR and LNR services also. I'm surprised that this wasn't rescheduled....

Buses replace trains between Stourbridge Junction and Bromsgrove / Worcester Shrub Hill on Sunday 11 July
Buses replace trains between Walsall and Rugely Trent Valley on Sunday 11 July

 

[Aictos]

Going to be carnage on Sunday if travelling by rail

I'm working Sunday as I be travelling to Kent for work, if there's mass cancellations then it's ticket acceptance or rail replacement paid by the TOC be it buses or taxis.

 

[Bald Rick]

There's a handful of planned engineering works that will impact WMR and LNR services also. I'm surprised that this wasn't rescheduled....

Buses replace trains between Stourbridge Junction and Bromsgrove / Worcester Shrub Hill on Sunday 11 July
Buses replace trains between Walsall and Rugely Trent Valley on Sunday 11 July

Err what?

 

[XAM2175]

Why would the PM grant a holiday on Monday as a result of a football match?

Er... because he's a buffoon who will do almost anything if he thinks it'll improve his image? [/cynic]

It's apparently at least plausible, but not for this coming Monday:

Boris Johnson poised to declare extra bank holiday if England win Euro 2020

Prospect of day off arises as ministers urged to release Covid data from previous matches

www.theguardian.com

... Asked whether he could declare Monday a bank holiday in the event of an England win, the prime minister said: “I think that would be tempting fate; let’s see what happens.”

His official spokesperson later added: “I don’t want to pre-empt the outcome of Sunday’s match. Clearly we want England to go all the way and win the final, and then we will set out our plans in due course.”

Downing Street sources suggested the timing of the match meant it would be much too late to give fans an emergency day off next Monday – but other options were being considered. ...

 

[Bertie the bus]

There's a handful of planned engineering works that will impact WMR and LNR services also. I'm surprised that this wasn't rescheduled....

Buses replace trains between Stourbridge Junction and Bromsgrove / Worcester Shrub Hill on Sunday 11 July
Buses replace trains between Walsall and Rugely Trent Valley on Sunday 11 July

Why would you reschedule engineering works between Walsall and Rugeley because there is a football match in London?

 

[father_jack]

Why would you reschedule engineering works between Walsall and Rugeley because there is a football match in London?

I think @Nova1 is thinking the track workers won't be in to work ? Sunday will be part of their working week unlike some traincrew who can opt out.

 

[ChiefPlanner]

If England lose - there will be carnage , if England win - carnage (of a different order).

See some of the pictures of London the other night with idiots on double decker bus roofs etc. BTP and the Met must be dreading it - let alone other places. I suppose Sugar Loaf Halt might be a place to sit it out safely.

 

[Surreytraveller]

I'm working Sunday as I be travelling to Kent for work, if there's mass cancellations then it's ticket acceptance or rail replacement paid by the TOC be it buses or taxis.

There's been quite a few occasions recently where rail replacements have been unobtainable

 

[bramling]

I agree, you can't say at the last thing Sunday night the day after will be a bank holiday. Did France do it in 1998??
What I am seeing, some non-railway related businesses are letting people start later or if they win they can have the day off. Some schools are starting at 10.30 too.

As if there hasn’t been enough disruption to work and education over the last year, all this fuss for a poxy football match! As a country we do seem to have priorities mixed up.

 

[Aictos]

There's been quite a few occasions recently where rail replacements have been unobtainable

That's not my fault, TOCs should be able to run a service regardless if England win or lose at Wembley. If they were so concerned about not being able to operate a service then they should have advertised that a amended service may operate prior to the Euros starting.

As if there hasn’t been enough disruption to work and education over the last year, all this fuss for a poxy football match! As a country we do seem to have priorities mixed up.

I fully agree, yes it be good if England win but as a country our priorities are all wrong!

 

[The Planner]

There's a handful of planned engineering works that will impact WMR and LNR services also. I'm surprised that this wasn't rescheduled....

Buses replace trains between Stourbridge Junction and Bromsgrove / Worcester Shrub Hill on Sunday 11 July
Buses replace trains between Walsall and Rugely Trent Valley on Sunday 11 July

Barely registers, they arent the Chilterns or WCML and a sweep of works was done as soon as venues were known months ago.

 

[Surreytraveller]

That's not my fault, TOCs should be able to run a service regardless if England win or lose at Wembley. If they were so concerned about not being able to operate a service then they should have advertised that a amended service may operate prior to the Euros starting.


I fully agree, yes it be good if England win but as a country our priorities are all wrong!

I know it's not your fault. There's a pandemic going on. And football. I'm just saying, not trying to blame you

 

[Aictos]

I know it's not your fault. There's a pandemic going on. And football. I'm just saying, not trying to blame you

I know, I'm just saying that the TOCs knew there was a chance that England might get though to the final so they should have taken steps to ensure they could still operate a service even if it's 1tph.

It's not like it's a new thing to them as pretty much whenever there's a major sporting event on, they suddenly have a shortage of staff...wonder why?

 

[Trackman]

As if there hasn’t been enough disruption to work and education over the last year, all this fuss for a poxy football match! As a country we do seem to have priorities mixed up.

I'll still be going to bed at the same time, other half will up at 4am, I'll be up 6am.
Even if there was a bank holiday I wouldn't be boozing to all hours in the morning.
Maybe I'm getting old..