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Hi all, are there any rail ticketing websites allowing to search only non-stop trains? (it will be useful for me to show only non-stop trains from Bournemouth to Poole / Southampton on a certain day such that stopping trains don't clutter the search result)
Thank you all.
 
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Hi all, are there any rail ticketing websites allowing to search only non-stop trains? (it will be useful for me to show only non-stop trains from Bournemouth to Poole / Southampton on a certain day such that stopping trains don't clutter the search result)
Thank you all.
Trainsplit allows you choose not calling at a station of your choice (up to three stations in fact)
 

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Hi all, are there any rail ticketing websites allowing to search only non-stop trains? (it will be useful for me to show only non-stop trains from Bournemouth to Poole / Southampton on a certain day such that stopping trains don't clutter the search result)
Thank you all.
Selecting XC only will get nearly all the non-stops to Soton.
Otherwise the journey time is a good clue (especially if you are prepared to stop at Brockenhurst!) but standard journey planners don't have the niche feature yorkie has mentioned, which is useful if you want a list over several hours.
 

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Trainsplit allows you choose not calling at a station of your choice (up to three stations in fact)
Thank you. This will allow me to filter out slow services by adding minor stops on into the selection.

By entering Brockenhurst there, I can get only non-stop services between Bournemouth and Southampton.
 

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This seems to be a very niche requirement, hardly worth anyone spending development time on.
 

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This seems to be a very niche requirement, hardly worth anyone spending development time on.

I completely agree, especially on a 2 track railway where the stoppers don't tend to get looped by a faster train between Bournemouth & Southampton.
 

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I completely agree, especially on a 2 track railway where the stoppers don't tend to get looped by a faster train between Bournemouth & Southampton.
The down stoppers are explicitly looped at Brockenhurst, with a 24 minute stop there. However this would be apparent in any journey planner.
 

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This seems to be a very niche requirement, hardly worth anyone spending development time on.
In terms of difficulty of implementation, which is easier to implement?
* Only search direct trains making less than N stops en-route
* Only search journeys which I can arrive the destination under M minutes.
 

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In terms of difficulty of implementation, which is easier to implement?
* Only search direct trains making less than N stops en-route
* Only search journeys which I can arrive the destination under M minutes.
Only search direct trains over a given period around when you wish to travel (which in most cases is probably only really about two hours), cast your eye over the results of elapsed time for the journey (which in most traveller's cases will be no more than 4-6 trains), and make your choice. Not difficult at all, and no difficulty of implementation because it is available already.

I suspect that a fairly large proportion of travellers have no meaningful choice of faster and slower trains for all or part of their journey, and this facility would be useless to them.
 
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In terms of difficulty of implementation, which is easier to implement?
* Only search direct trains making less than N stops en-route
* Only search journeys which I can arrive the destination under M minutes.
It's a long time since I worked in IT, but put as baldly as this there would be lots of opportunities for users to put in what you and I know are silly requests (show me all the trains from Liverpool Central to Southport that don't stop anywhere else, show me all the trains from Bournemouth to Waterloo with a journey time of under five minutes) and then complain that they got a silly answer. I know, and you know, the old adage about 'garbage in, garbage out' but that wouldn't stop people complaining (the journey planner wouldn't show me any trains to Southport, there's nothing in the timetable from Bournemouth to Waterloo). It might be the case that even if technically feasible it's not a good idea to offer these particular tools!
 

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Only search direct trains over a given period around when you wish to travel (which in most cases is probably only really about two hours), cast your eye over the results of elapsed time for the journey (which in most traveller's cases will be no more than 4-6 trains), and make your choice. No difficult at all, and no difficulty of implementation because it is available already.
It would also be obvious from a SWT printed timetable booklet, once the full timetable is back in force. There’s only a few SWR non-stop in the peak flow direction then, and they’re quite obvious in the timetable because they’re portions of the trains that split and join at Southampton.

In normal times the XCs all stop at Brockenhurst but they’re also reasonably fast.
 

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In terms of difficulty of implementation, which is easier to implement?
* Only search direct trains making less than N stops en-route
* Only search journeys which I can arrive the destination under M minutes.
Depends entirely on the routing algorithm used by the journey-planner. Both would be easy to implement in post-processing, though.
 

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Only search direct trains over a given period around when you wish to travel (which in most cases is probably only really about two hours), cast your eye over the results of elapsed time for the journey (which in most traveller's cases will be no more than 4-6 trains), and make your choice. Not difficult at all, and no difficulty of implementation because it is available already.

I suspect that a fairly large proportion of travellers have no meaningful choice of faster and slower trains for all or part of their journey, and this facility would be useless to them.
I'm a flexible leisure traveller so the period I want to travel can be as long as the whole morning, and the list of journeys can be a few pages long on a frequent route.

And I object to your view that a fairly large proportion of travellers have no meaningful choice of faster and slower trains for all or part of their journey. On most main lines in the National Rail network, there are trains with different calling patterns.
 

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Do you want a site that actually sells tickets, or will a journey planner with this option be enough for you? National Rail Enquiries has an option for this, it's "Show only direct trains" which is hidden at the bottom of the "More options, railcards and passengers" section.
 

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Do you want a site that actually sells tickets, or will a journey planner with this option be enough for you? National Rail Enquiries has an option for this, it's "Show only direct trains" which is hidden at the bottom of the "More options, railcards and passengers" section.

I thought the OP wanted non-stop, i.e. trains that have no station calls between the points concerned.
 

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I'm a flexible leisure traveller so the period I want to travel can be as long as the whole morning, and the list of journeys can be a few pages long on a frequent route.

And I object to your view that a fairly large proportion of travellers have no meaningful choice of faster and slower trains for all or part of their journey. On most main lines in the National Rail network, there are trains with different calling patterns.
Even for leisure journeys, you have some idea of when you want to go. There cannot be many people who are flexible over a few hours to travel on a non-stop train, rather than selecting one about the time you want to go and making a judgement call on the journey times of the trains around that time.

That is why I referred to 'meaningful' choice. Fast trains over much slower trains are obvious from the journey times they are taking. If it is a choice of a train taking 3hrs 20 minutes, or 3hrs on a faster train that has a different calling pattern, that is not meaningful. Most lines with trains frequent enough to have a meaningful difference have a fast train at least every 2 hours or so, and a journey plan of trains for two hours around when you want to travel will easily find them. No need for complicated and confusing filters which could easily produce misleading results for the non-timetable enthusiast majority.
 

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Hi all, are there any rail ticketing websites allowing to search only non-stop trains? (it will be useful for me to show only non-stop trains from Bournemouth to Poole / Southampton on a certain day such that stopping trains don't clutter the search result)
For Bournemouth-Poole, searching for journeys which avoid Pokesdown would work, as the web sites don't realise when trains pass through the station. There's no equivalent for Bournemouth-Southampton, however, as they do notice trains which pass through Brockenhurst. Redbridge too, for that matter.
It's a long time since I worked in IT, but put as baldly as this there would be lots of opportunities for users to put in what you and I know are silly requests (show me all the trains from Liverpool Central to Southport that don't stop anywhere else, show me all the trains from Bournemouth to Waterloo with a journey time of under five minutes) and then complain that they got a silly answer.
There are already lots of ways to put silly requests into these sites (Bournemouth-Redbridge direct is one of the ones SWR lets you ask for). It helps that they have a telesales line, as frustrated customers can speak to someone who can try to manage their expectations and meet their needs.

I don't know if any of the suggestions would be helpful, though. Someone might request non-stop trains in the hope of seeing the fastest ones, when they're not always the same thing.
 

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If it is a choice of a train taking 3hrs 20 minutes, or 3hrs on a faster train that has a different calling pattern, that is not meaningful.
This is meaningful as taking the 3 hours train represents a significant time saving. The difference between express (1h50) and semi-fast service (1h58) between Bournemouth and London Waterloo is less than that which already makes me prefer taking the express service if possible if I have some flexibility on my trip times, and if we consider the section between Bournemouth and Southampton only (29 vs 36 minutes), such difference can significantly impact the choice of regular commuters if the workplace allows them to start / end work in a time range, rather than a fixed time. (saving 7 minutes in the commute each way is a significant factor of taking a job or not)
 

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saving 7 minutes in the commute each way is a significant factor of taking a job or not
I really doubt that most people would feel that way, but whatever floats your boat!
 

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I don't know if any of the suggestions would be helpful, though. Someone might request non-stop trains in the hope of seeing the fastest ones, when they're not always the same thing.

The planners show the fastest connections by default anyway, plus sometimes a few others that might be otherwise desirable, e.g. cheaper or fewer changes.
 

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A traditional timetable is probably the easiest way to see stopping patterns at a glance.

SWR's are available online here
 
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